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Comment by skybrian

5 hours ago

That's the plan, but to get to actual decentralization, one of the steps is for more people to actually move their PDS's somewhere other than Bluesky.

(They are not self-hosting; Eurosky is doing it.)

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kevinak  4 hours ago

You won’t have decentralisation on Atproto because the protocol itself incentivises centralisation.

  • tancop  4 hours ago

    the only true centralized part is the did:plc registry and thats designed to be fully auditable. all canonical data is stored on your pds so if you self host that you get full control.

    decentralization is not about the number of app instances but how easy it is to switch from one to another. on that metric bluesky is already better than fediverse.

    • kevinak  3 hours ago

      That’s a very narrow definition of decentralisation. In any case - both atproto and fediverse are massively centralised compared to something like Nostr, and it’s not even close.

      The fact that the PDS in practice owns your identity in the vast vast majority of cases is such a dumb trade off that it’s honestly laughable. Should Bluesky decide to splinter off of the network there would be like 50000 people left.

      Stop telling people that it’s decentralised in any meaningful way and be honest about it instead. That’s the issue. The dishonesty and tricking users.

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dotcoma  5 hours ago

But... if Waag are not self-hosting, and they're not, how likely is it that normal people will start doing so in relatively large numbers?

  • steveklabnik  4 hours ago

    An important part of how this works is that you don't have to make that choice right away.

    I've been meaning to move to my own PDS for a few months now. Still haven't. Whenever I decide to get around to it, it'll be fine.