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Comment by minimaxir

6 days ago

I received early access to test this model. (through work — Google still does not like me personally lol)

It works as advertised here, and it does behave like a distilled Nano Banana 2 with respect to certain elements such as good text rendering, which Nano Banana 1 does much worse with. It is definitely not at the level of the base Nano Banana 2 of course particularly with highly-nuanced prompts. My main criticism is that you cannot programmatically force aspect ratios with NB2L but you can with NB2.

That said, the price of $0.034/image is higher than expected since price is generally correlated with generation time, and it takes half the time to generate than a Nano Banana 1 image which costs $0.039/image. Google's assertion that you can directly replace NB1 pipelines with NB2L is fair.

Yesterday, Google announced that the Gemini app will allow free image generations (https://blog.google/innovation-and-ai/products/gemini-app/pe...) but did not specify which model would be used: I suspect it's the main motivation for Nano Banana 2 Lite.

You can set aspect ratios with NB2 Lite programmatically through Vertex [1]. I updated the program I use to help create all the images for GenAI Showdown, set the model ID to `gemini-3.1-flash-lite-image`, and was able to use aspect ratios like 16:9, 4:3, and others.

[1] - https://cloud.google.com/developers/vertex-ai

Can it make diagrams that can be imported into .pptx or google slides as actual diagrams (SVG in PowerPoint I guess) i.e. you can move the components, there are real arrows, etc… or does it strictly produce raster images?

Fable is the first model I found that can actually produce such diagrams in slides, in .pptx format that exports cleanly and consistently to Google slides, and is also able to iterate on those diagrams with specific feedback like “center align the arrow with the blue pill on the left which should be vertically aligned inside the dashed database container and make the arrow terminate in the left edge vertical center of the light blue object storage container.”

  • Why is that desirable, or how is that faster, for something where you are just moving the shapes around visually anyway? Kinda feel like I could drag the blue pill to center of the rectangle faster than typing out the instruction..

    • Because the interface sucks. It previews in an embedded viewer, exports to pptx, imports into Google Slides, then I can edit it there but if I want to make further edits on other slides, I’m basically stuck because Claude can’t export from Google Slides back to pptx.

      Technically cowork writes python scripts to do all the diagram positioning so if I go and make manual edits it’s not easy for Claude to change those back to the script anyway. Easier for me to guide it and it edits the scripts.

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> Google still does not like me personally lol

Please elaborate.

  • I read it as "Google is indifferent to me" rather than "Google specifically dislikes me", as a point of clarification that they didn't get access by being personally selected.