Comment by muse900
6 days ago
I get what you are saying, but how can we be talking about skill atrophy when our main skill is changing from being able to produce code ourselves to being able to leverage LLMs to write that code.
At the end of the day there are goals achieved with coding. Coding is a tool to reach either your business needs or some personal aspiration.
When it comes to businesses I don't think a business cares if you used the best stack possible, or you've written it in assembly, as long as it works. Judging from the biggest coding drivers out there, most of the code produced globally and the biggest apps out there have had skilled engineers writing code but its not always perfect. As long as it works. Lets not forget that the web is build in php and js.
So again my argument is that, are you atrophying a skill that is going to exist in the next 1 to 2 years, or is everything going to shift towards LLM code writting.
Personally I think that LLM code writing is the winner, whether we like it or not, it accelerates business objectives, which at the end of the day its what is the deciding factor.
And yes I do miss the days I was writing code and I was solving complex problems myself.
> At the end of the day there are goals achieved with coding. Coding is a tool to reach either your business needs or some personal aspiration.
This is your opinion and I even share it, but there are many people here for whom writing the code was/is the whole deal. You would not have languages and heck - even editors! - holy wars otherwise.
Yes for sure there are people that writing code is the whole deal.
How many of them are driving goals and businesses though?
Like if we take for example an ex coder like Gabe, someone from his team comes up and says to him "we can launch this game in 1 year by using LLMs, codebase will be meh/okish" or "we can launch this game in 4 years we'll hire the top engineers and write the best software piece ever, a technical novelty".
I already know his answer... even if his answer was the 4 years which won't be, his board would disagree.
So yes there are people that love and enjoy writing software, but the truth is that business is leading software, not the other way around.
For me personally nowadays I don't need languages, I am so deep into coding using LLM's, not vibing, that I don't really mind on what is written. Also we are just at the start of this thing.