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Comment by cube00

1 day ago

It's impressive all these companies are getting away with "base usage allowance included" [1] or "standard limits" [2], layering the higher plans as a multiplier of that "base" but never disclosing what it is.

I guess the base is whatever the profit margin needs to be this month.

[1]: https://zcode.z.ai/en#:~:text=Base%20usage%20allowance%20inc...

[2]: https://support.google.com/gemini/answer/16275805?hl=en#:~:t...

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ranyume  20 hours ago

When running the app, it actually tells you what the base usages are, but the name of the plans are different from the page. It reads:

Start plan: 5 Million tokens a day (GLM-5.2 3M, GLM-5 Turbo 2M)

For individuals: (+150% quota) $18.00USD+ For individual developers with a dedicated Coding Plan quota.

  • overgard  2 hours ago

    Heh, so it sounds like you have to pay them first to find out what you're going to get for the money? That's an interesting business model..

  • SwellJoe  20 hours ago

    Now, if only we can figure out what all the others are providing as part of their subscriptions we can compare. (Though 3 million tokens of the top model per day seems kinda low. But, I guess that's what the 5x plan is for. I'd still like to be able to compare against all the big providers.)

    • ranyume  18 hours ago

      Note that it says "start plan" without a price tag. The price tag for the other plan is the one on the page. I don't know what it is because I haven't set up an account to use it, I set up a custom provider in the app.

      The app itself is interesting to me. I can see most of the agent trace (I can't see the tool definitions and the tool input args), I can set up skills and make the agent manage them and I can define sub-agents as well.

      The UI itself is a bit weird, but I guess it's not thought to be a general purpose file editor.

nullbio  15 hours ago

Yeah, this is why I like the ACCC in Australia. They wouldn't allow this sort of thing to fly if this was an Australian company.