Comment by cyanydeez

YES, but you seem to not understand that having two non-deterministic layers is incompatible. #1 is fine: it has random issue and you build around those random issues; those issues don't change unless you change them.

#2 is not fine; that non-determinism you do not control, have no insight into, etc.

I'm saying sure, give me #1 if it means I can build a harness around it and smooth over the edges. But I'm not taking #1 and #2. There's zero reasonable way to manae two non-deterministic systems.