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Comment by petre

18 hours ago

Maybe that's part of why VW had to fire 100k employees? They've been lately doing a subpar job designing cars.

That may be one reason, the other being they lost the Chinese market almost overnight a few years ago.

  • No they didn't. They had a hiccup in 2020 when the transition to electric cars really started accelerating but after they got their own electric cars into mass production they've reclaimed the top spot at 13.9% of the Chinese market. That's just ahead of Geely at 13.8%, Toyota at 7.8% and BYD at 7.1%.

    It was hard to find reputable numbers for all of Q1, so my source is only for january and february: https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/volksw...

I think it’s a legal requirement, because it’s the same for Tesla.

  • Correct. I have reasonable insight into that particular world. Most none-sense is regulatory. There is less room for variation than one would assume too. Ironically, this is, in no small amount, reason for issues in competitiveness: ain't no cheap car with all these additional assistants. Especially for low-margin models it is devastating.

  • The speeding chime is legally required to be reset to on after every trip. But I find the speed signs are very rarely missed (model 3 highland), also its a single press on the main screen to disable. My warnings are +99% genuine cases where i need to slow down and I bet that’s true for +99% of people who have these system.

    • That's strange. I was reading through this thread nodding my head like "Ha, my Tesla doesn't have these annoyances!" until I saw your comment.

      I'm guessing though that you're in the EU (I'm in the US where it is almost considered criminal to go speed limit on the highway)

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  • In older VW Polos (at least) it was easy to disable that feature with two clicks on a physical button located on the steering wheel. Not so on the ID.3, and other newer Volkswagens, unfortunately.

  • One can still make a good design within the legal requirement. It doesn't say how many dB the beeper has to have or adjust the level of assistance. Maybe pressure from Chinese manufacturers will force them to get their stuff together, cut back on the user hostile design.

  • At least with Tesla you have massive ecosystem of third party add-ons, including defeat devices.

    I do wish it was even quieter tho. It's kinda of a shame you got a quiet EV but then add annoying bingbongs.