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Comment by dahrkael

16 hours ago

the LineageOS teams refuses to incorporate patches to support MicroG as a replacement for Google Services so anyone (including me) that wants to follow that path is required to use unofficial builds.

They stopped that malpractice a while ago (last year?). Signature spoofing is now possible, so microG should work.

But they really hurt their credibility with the prior stance, and that their subreddit still has rules forbidding almost all discussions - interpreted as just closing all questions regarding blocked topics, like rooting, microG, Volte - is still a stain on an otherwise great project.

  • > They stopped that malpractice a while ago (last year?).

    By now it has actually been almost two and a half years.

    > But they really hurt their credibility with the prior stance, and that their subreddit still has rules forbidding almost all discussions [...].

    While I'm not looking to turn this into an off-platform meta discussion, pretty much all of those rules have their very good reasons to be there.

    As an example, you would be surprised how many people install a Magisk module to strip away LineageOS-specific build version properties, and then end up in our support platforms asking why the Updater can't search for new updates (of course while not mentioning that they have modified their system).

    microG I don't even see listed as a part of any rule anymore, it was removed when upstream support for microG was merged.

    • Time flies :)

      You are correct, the microG ban is gone from the sidebar. That's nice.

      (Why this was so important: During covid the official contact tracker in Germany needed microG/the play services, a newer alternative then bundled the scanner or something, so worked without. But that took time and was less official. When it becomes life and death impractical positions like that hurt).

      It's okay if you dont want to discuss it. To share my position anyway: You need the option to have root so the device belongs you (and not the Rom), VoLTE is an existential threat and the ban stiffles all options to easily get information about the situation. That's the main point: Banning topics completely does only make things worse, and it is not like the project tried not to ban these topics for how many years now, a decade? An Autobot answer should suffice for making the problems known.

  • I can't find information about this except in a Reddit thread. Is it documented somewhere?

    • If you are talking about the addition of microG, that indeed seems like it hasn't been mentioned on the blog, although I'd argue very likely due to an oversight.

      I can find internal conversations that it deserves to be announced in a more prominent way than on the "Sunsetting LineageOS 18.1" post, was left as "to be added to the LineageOS 22.x" blog post, and then just never made the initial draft. Whoops.

      If you are talking about the rules on the subreddit (or the other social platforms), that one indeed has been discussed a lot on the platform itself (and which we usually keep available).

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  • ah good to know. still since im already on the microg builds I'll keep using that until this phone dies so I'm still skewing the statistics