Comment by bevekspldnw
2 days ago
Yes, but not in the “dump another chunk of all written language in the bucket and stir”-sense which is what bitter lesson became synonymous with.
That may not be the intent of the original article, but over the past few years that’s what the phrase turned into.
GPT-6 is supposed to be using a much larger base model that just finished pretraining so the "dump another chunk of all written language" approach is still going strong.
Modern pretraining also consists of expensive human-led specialized task creation and grading loops. Synthetic generation and distillation from previous models is another input for training. I wonder how much new text contributes beyond keeping knowledge up-to-date.
Where did they get a second copy of all books, written/audio/visual media, and the web?
Couch cushions?
The measure is to see if the results scale, not just the rumored attempts at building such a model, as o3 taught us.
Where are they getting new data from at this point? Didn't they already read the entire internet?
A lot of data these days is synthetically generated. As an example, to make a model good at understanding assembly you simply need to round-trip code through a compiler and disassembler, then train against the source of truth and the assembly. You can generate arbitrary algebra expressions and have it solve it.
A lot of pretraining is also choosing the right type of data, you don't want to just have it ingest garbage (although I read that some amount of garbage actually helps the model be more robust). Pretraining crystallizes a lot of the inductive biases that post-training builds on, so by crafting the right data mixture you can make it easier for it to start off with a good foundation. There is also a lot of focus on mid-training these days, which I understand is basically either the name for the synthetic data stage, or the SFT phase before all the RL
Custom sets and mining their own users, as every lab does
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The bitter lesson just means “compute scaling beats hand-tuned architectures in the long run”.
As GP said. More RLHF is in fact the bitter lesson.