Comment by HumblyTossed
2 days ago
But if we fixed it, that might help people who can't afford the ride otherwise. And we cannot have that.
--- Says far too many people, always.
2 days ago
But if we fixed it, that might help people who can't afford the ride otherwise. And we cannot have that.
--- Says far too many people, always.
But do they really? Can you point a real, evil villain saying that?
Here you go: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48857068
Do you really not understand the difference between the one you cited and the one to which I was responding?
The one to which I was responding was capricious. The one you cited has reasoning, even if you disagree with it.
And that was the whole point of my comment. That by reducing the other side to a farcical strawman, you diminish your own argument. It just becomes a yelling match.
I would rather debate the person you cited than sit complacently with the cynic to whom I responded.
I think we are all villains here. Good healthcare coverage is just another status symbol to be attained. If the poor have it then it becomes less of a value. To some degree we are all wired this way and we all suffer because of it.
I'm not sure I agree. Poor health is not always obvious and your health insurance provider is not conspicuous in most interactions.
I have had VASTLY better free health coverage (OHP, Portland OR via Providence) than the current Kaiser dreck I and employer pay significant sums for.
Healthcare is not a flex, and it my experiences on the west coast, it's an inverse correlation to wealth. :/
You're getting down voted, but there's substance here. A "job with benefits" is a badge of honor for some. That means they've "worked hard" and "earned it".
>I think we are all villains here. Good healthcare coverage is just another status symbol to be attained.
Seriously? How many conversations have you been in where people were bragging about how good their health coverage is and trying to one-up each other? The extent I've experienced is stuff along the lines of "thank god I had my health plan, because otherwise it would have cost [6 figures]", but it didn't give the impression that they'd be mad if everyone didn't have to suffer that fate.
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See everyone who decries student loan forgiveness as an example.
Government subsidized sudent loan forgiveness is a regressive tax, though, which makes it quite unpopular in the non educated that on average earn less.
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But that is not the topic being discussed. Is it?
Sure, in a given public discussion, lots of people saying that show up. But substantial portion of those are shills, not necessarily people to say but who benefit from the scam. And some people who are paid, public relations people acting on the downlow, etc.