You don't need to show your ID to go into the store and buy something else though, so why would this provide any sort of precedent for "you can't use the internet for literally anything on this device without proving your age"?
In many areas, this is left up to the parents - minors can't buy alcohol at stores, but parents are legally allowed to give alcohol to their children to drink.
I think the distinction the comment is drawing is about the legality of it not the practical feasibility .
It would be illegal under the currently proposed
/implemented laws and also open up social media to liability, which wouldn’t be true for other products like Alcohol or fire arms that require minimum age to buy but not give to children
An analogous good implementation of age restriction is that one must show their ID to buy an unrestricted device if they look too young.
They can't be tracked, as long as the devices are in randomly sorted identical boxes. Of course someone can buy a device and give it to a kid, but that's already possible with alcohol (and legal if it's their kid).
You don't need to show your ID to go into the store and buy something else though, so why would this provide any sort of precedent for "you can't use the internet for literally anything on this device without proving your age"?
I was responding to this quote only
> why can't we just leave all responsibility to the parents? In our experience in the offline world it seems this applies!
In many areas, this is left up to the parents - minors can't buy alcohol at stores, but parents are legally allowed to give alcohol to their children to drink.
You could always sign your kid into tik tok to avoid age restrictions if you want. Same thing
I think the distinction the comment is drawing is about the legality of it not the practical feasibility .
It would be illegal under the currently proposed /implemented laws and also open up social media to liability, which wouldn’t be true for other products like Alcohol or fire arms that require minimum age to buy but not give to children
So we don't leave it all up to the parents: parents can give it, but minors also can't buy it regardless of parental views.
Also give it to your kids too often and the state can step in.
Defense in depth
An analogous good implementation of age restriction is that one must show their ID to buy an unrestricted device if they look too young.
They can't be tracked, as long as the devices are in randomly sorted identical boxes. Of course someone can buy a device and give it to a kid, but that's already possible with alcohol (and legal if it's their kid).
I actually really like this suggestion. Treat a phone like a box of cigarettes. Hey, it could even have a surgeon general's warning on the packaging!
> Even in the offline world that is not the case. Ex. Alkohol sales
I bought a beer yesterday and shared it with our 16 year-old, and I shared some wine with him this evening.
How does that not come under "parental responsibility"?