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Comment by sfn42

12 hours ago

I imagine that 100 years from now(or significantly less than that) the ocean water level will be several meters higher, large parts of the world will be unliveable due to heat waves and wars will be fought over food and water. I doubt our species will last another 1000.

I'm very confident our species will last longer than the next 1000 years. Our current civilisation, though, now that's a completely different story.

  • Yeah if we're back to sticks and stones we might as well be extinct as far as I'm concerned.

You might try spending some time reading predictions of doom and gloom from the past. It should be very reassuring.

  • In not talking about baseless predictions. I'm talking about science. This is not speculation, it's not a possible future scenario, this is the world we currently live in and the trajectory we know for a fact that it is taking. We're setting heat records literally every year. All over the world. The polar ice caps, Greenland etc are melting rapidly, this is not speculation these are facts, these are things currently happening.

    We know how much ice is on land, people have spent decades drilling the ice and calculating it's volume etc, we know it's melting because there's way less of it now than there was just decades ago and we know how much that melted ice will influence water levels.

    We know the effect greenhouse gases have on the atmosphere and global temperatures, people have made scientifically informed charts predicting how the temperature will rise decades ago and we are right on track.

    The prediction happened when I was a child, and all my life I've watched the prediction come true. The fact that there's still millions if not billions of people out there who are living through the same situation and still think climate change is a hoax is absolutely baffling to me. Just look at a fucking global average temperature chart for the past few decades holy shit man it's not a secret the planet is cooking. It's not maybe going to cook 500 years from now it's cooking right now and it's getting worse every year how can you possibly look at these simple clear facts and not understand that it's going to continue?

    You guys annoy me so much holy shit open your eyes and just look at the world we live in

    • Greenhouse gas emissions are a huge problem, but there's no reason to believe we can't solve or mitigate the effects one way or another. It may come at a terrible cost, or it may turn out to be easier than you'd expect.

      You're not using "science" to predict the future. You're just expressing a pessimistic belief that we're doomed based your own idea of how things will play out.

      To me, optimism seems far more justified based on our track record, we've more-or-less solved some big problems:

      - "Population growth is going to cause worldwide famine"

      - "We are going to run out of oil and civilization will collapse"

      - "The ozone hole is going to expose everyone to dangerous radiation"

      - "Acid rain is going to destroy forests and kill lakes"

      - "City air pollution is going to make major cities unlivable"

      - and smallpox/polio/HIV/leaded gasoline/etc

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