{"id":48961840,"user":"Jtarii","time":1784405502,"time_ago":"2 days ago","type":"comment","content":"

Presumably the US military / NSA.","comments":[{"id":48961941,"user":"milkshakes","time":1784406068,"time_ago":"2 days ago","type":"comment","content":"

the USG/NSA will fund chinese labs?\nto what end?","comments":[{"id":48961967,"user":"Jtarii","time":1784406221,"time_ago":"2 days ago","type":"comment","content":"

I was more thinking they would be funding US labs.","comments":[{"id":48962070,"user":"milkshakes","time":1784406791,"time_ago":"2 days ago","type":"comment","content":"

the question was: what is the endgame for the stated "second class labs" strategy of distilling their frontier competitors then undercutting them on price?","comments":[{"id":48966907,"user":"Jtarii","time":1784459172,"time_ago":"a day ago","type":"comment","content":"

They will make a bunch of money then maybe go out of business eventually when the economics shift? Do they need an endgame?

Some people are just happy to follow the money.","comments":[],"comments_count":0,"level":3,"url":"item?id=48966907"},{"id":48962542,"user":"traverseda","time":1784409627,"time_ago":"2 days ago","type":"comment","content":"

Yes yes, we all understand the game-theoretic race-to-the-bottom you're describing here. Somehow despite linux being FOSS it still powers most of the important computing in the world. Can you explain how that works despite it being free? Once you understand that case I think you'll understand the game-theory behind how large projects can exist in the absence of traditional IP protection.","comments":[{"id":48963065,"user":"milkshakes","time":1784413515,"time_ago":"a day ago","type":"comment","content":"

the obvious difference is the massive scale of data and compute required to develop and evolve these models, and the costs they impose on those building them.","comments":[{"id":48963748,"user":"traverseda","time":1784419897,"time_ago":"a day ago","type":"comment","content":"

Smaller budgets, slower improvement, less risk. They're not entitled to profits if that business model isn't sustainable. They're not entitled to a change in IP laws to protect their business model. They're not entitled to growing that fast.","comments":[{"id":48965153,"user":"milkshakes","time":1784437558,"time_ago":"a day ago","type":"comment","content":"

who are you talking about?\nagain, my question is concerned with the "second class labs" and the sustainability of the distillation-as-a-service model.","comments":[],"comments_count":0,"level":6,"url":"item?id=48965153"}],"comments_count":1,"level":5,"url":"item?id=48963748"}],"comments_count":2,"level":4,"url":"item?id=48963065"}],"comments_count":3,"level":3,"url":"item?id=48962542"},{"id":48962209,"user":"nickysielicki","time":1784407591,"time_ago":"2 days ago","type":"comment","content":"

Making lots of money?","comments":[],"comments_count":0,"level":3,"url":"item?id=48962209"}],"comments_count":6,"level":2,"url":"item?id=48962070"}],"comments_count":7,"level":1,"url":"item?id=48961967"}],"comments_count":8,"level":0,"url":"item?id=48961941"}],"comments_count":9,"url":"item?id=48961840"}

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