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Comment by EagnaIonat

2 months ago

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I don't know why you're saying this, given this is not sycophancy and instead is an actual example of Claude Fable finding a real counterexample. I would get it if the mathematician had in fact posted something untrue or crankish, but he posted something true.

Frontier models have solved several major open problems in mathematics in the past few months, so this should not be a huge shock. "Anti-AI psychosis" will probably grow to outcompete AI psychosis by year's end.

  • >"Anti-AI psychosis" will probably grow to outcompete AI psychosis by year's end.

    Everyone has their own experiences making it hard to judge what attitudes are prevalent.

    From what I have encountered the Anti-AI people have been more common and more outright scary.

    I have heard some ideas from the Pro AI crowd and thought to myself "Yeah, that's not going to happen anytime soon", There was enthusiasm leading to overoptimism. A lot of them are going to be disappointed.

    The Anti AI crowd, which I distinguish from those who want AI done responsibly, sustainably, and as safe as can be realistically be managed. There are real criticisms to be made on real issues here. The Anti AI crowd I see seem to want to scrub the world of it, they stand in the way of any responsible implementation because it would be accepting it.

    Those people scare me, the vitriol and bad faith interpretation of everything as an indicator of the proof of their reality has the tone of the moral righteousness of a true believer. The outright endorsement of violent acts has me concerned that the more radical or emotionally unstable of the group will do some serious harm. It's not the bulk of a radical movement that causes atrocities, most of those involved just create an environment that normalises toxic attitudes. That environment can incubate a few individuals that act, either for phycological reasons, status, or simple the inability to empathise or consider consequences.

    • I've seen plenty videos of locals being violently removed from town halls due to displaying of anti AI sentiment. I wouldnt consider it fair to use these examples to tar the entirety of the pro AI camp. the way objectivity and subjectivity are intertwined in your comment is spectacular, ever considered a career in propaganda?

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    • I initially wanted to downvote you but I can’t because you’re right.

      I’d probably be called an anti-ai luddite on this site despite using it all the time for programming. I naturally gravitate to anti-ai viewpoints, but only because the breathless hype of the AI boosters is so nauseating. I have no moral qualms about AI (although I’d like nothing more than Anthropic/OAI/Google dismantled), but I really hate the idea that AI can replace artists, or humans as a whole. I think it’s anti-human to its core.

      But AI is obviously useful and we could harness it for good. We shouldn’t give up on it entirely. And the people who are militantly against all usage are scarier than the boosters for sure.

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  • I was responding to the person, not the top post.

    I find it funny to be "anti-ai" when I work in the field. Pointing out dangers that need to be addressed isn't being Anti-AI.

    I didn't comment on the top post because it's not my area.

  • This is just a form of mass stupidity by the non-intellectually curious people who massively overrate their own intelligence.

    Sorry, but if the current models haven't shown you something amazing at this point that would make this of little surprise, it because the person is an intellectual bore and completely full of shit themselves.