Comment by traceroute66
7 days ago
> Any non-US company, US can block the models which can disrupt the whole business.
And read your data, see CLOUD act, PATRIOT act etc. etc.
No longer a theoretical risk in today's US political environment.
7 days ago
> Any non-US company, US can block the models which can disrupt the whole business.
And read your data, see CLOUD act, PATRIOT act etc. etc.
No longer a theoretical risk in today's US political environment.
Hasn’t that been the assumption since Carnivore? Also we tapped European pols phones back in ‘12, was it? Though it’s not like the Eu are a bunch of innocents either…
It’s not a new thing. Industrial espionage has always been a thing as well. So has bribery (for deals) been a thing especially by euro concerns.
> It’s not a new thing. Industrial espionage has always been a thing as well.
Well sure, except with closed US LLMs you're basically just handing them data on a plate, and paying for the privilege. ;)
Very American really ... monetising industrial espionage.
Our intelligence services have capabilities, it's not just the US. The Patriot / Cloud Act increase the scope outside of intelligence agencies. I'm of the opinion that for military intelligence there is a legitimate need to have some - black - capability. It should just be highly limited in scope.
> It should just be highly limited in scope
"should" is doing a lot of heavy lifting there.
I agree it is hard to escape some form of legitimate need for intel.
The concern with intel and the present US administration comes on the checks, balances and controls side.
We are after all dealing with an administration happy to conduct much of its most sensitive business on Signal using off-the-shelf phones.
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No. Lots of people have never heard of FAA702 (which has been well-documented in mass media) much less Carnivore or ECHELON.
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