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Comment by alunchbox

11 hours ago

I've heard almost nothing about Gemini in my circles, are they still in the race to build AGI?

Of the models I've tried lately, I get more value out of Gemini for personal stuff like researching products or learning how to do things than the others. It seems more factually correct in domains I know about and hallucinates minor stuff less than the others.

  • I flop between 3.1 and 3.5 when I need it to be flawless. Fast and relatively affordable. Up to 6x cheaper than competitors.

Google has not had a single SOTA model since about a year now.

  • You are exaggerating. 3.1 Pro came out in February of this year.

    • ... and it was not SOTA at the time of release. Gemini 3.1 Pro was previewed on 19 February 2026. It just barely beat GPT-5.3 and was roughly equal with Sonnet 4.6. Better according to some, worse according to others. And that lasted about 10 days (until GPT-5.4 came out which was also not a huge jump). And these are large averages. On coding or terminal Gemini 3.1 Pro was not close to Opus 4.6. Also it only matches the GLM 5 open model, more or less.

      Last time Google had a "everybody agrees" SOTA model was Gemini 3 in November 2025, it beat GPT-5.1, it really was better and held it for a month.

      Currently Google's best model doesn't match open models, in any category (performance, price or speed), in fact the last 4 open weight champions all beat Google's best model.

      Here's a plot of the evolution: https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1v20g29/kimik3_...

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