← Back to context Comment by nkrisc 2 months ago How is this not criminal? Surely individuals have been punished under CFAA for less than this? 12 comments nkrisc Reply dangoodmanUT 2 months ago Because huggingface is not charging them?CFAA doesn't just mean the feds kick down your door, you actually have to get reported and sued over it. free_bip 2 months ago HuggingFace does not decide who gets charged with crimes. Plenty of people go to prison for crimes the victim didn't want them prosecuted for. pixl97 2 months ago In the US if a person does it, it's a crime. If a business does it, it's an industrial accident and maybe they sue each other. petesergeant 2 months ago [dead] user43928 2 months ago Does the CFAA cover unintentional access without authorization? charonn0 2 months ago No. "Intentionally", "willfully", or "knowingly" are prerequisite states of mind for crimes defined by the CFAA. nkrisc 2 months ago Good thing it’s an AI then so it can’t commit crimes by definition. 1 reply → 6thbit 2 months ago The agent did it intentionally and willfully and knowingly. But you can’t sue the agent, I suppose. And the human didn’t ask the agent to do so.. so not a problem? Or the legislation needs an update? 2 replies → lukewarm707 2 months ago it IS criminal, but the rule of law is weak
dangoodmanUT 2 months ago Because huggingface is not charging them?CFAA doesn't just mean the feds kick down your door, you actually have to get reported and sued over it. free_bip 2 months ago HuggingFace does not decide who gets charged with crimes. Plenty of people go to prison for crimes the victim didn't want them prosecuted for. pixl97 2 months ago In the US if a person does it, it's a crime. If a business does it, it's an industrial accident and maybe they sue each other. petesergeant 2 months ago [dead]
free_bip 2 months ago HuggingFace does not decide who gets charged with crimes. Plenty of people go to prison for crimes the victim didn't want them prosecuted for. pixl97 2 months ago In the US if a person does it, it's a crime. If a business does it, it's an industrial accident and maybe they sue each other.
pixl97 2 months ago In the US if a person does it, it's a crime. If a business does it, it's an industrial accident and maybe they sue each other.
user43928 2 months ago Does the CFAA cover unintentional access without authorization? charonn0 2 months ago No. "Intentionally", "willfully", or "knowingly" are prerequisite states of mind for crimes defined by the CFAA. nkrisc 2 months ago Good thing it’s an AI then so it can’t commit crimes by definition. 1 reply → 6thbit 2 months ago The agent did it intentionally and willfully and knowingly. But you can’t sue the agent, I suppose. And the human didn’t ask the agent to do so.. so not a problem? Or the legislation needs an update? 2 replies →
charonn0 2 months ago No. "Intentionally", "willfully", or "knowingly" are prerequisite states of mind for crimes defined by the CFAA. nkrisc 2 months ago Good thing it’s an AI then so it can’t commit crimes by definition. 1 reply → 6thbit 2 months ago The agent did it intentionally and willfully and knowingly. But you can’t sue the agent, I suppose. And the human didn’t ask the agent to do so.. so not a problem? Or the legislation needs an update? 2 replies →
6thbit 2 months ago The agent did it intentionally and willfully and knowingly. But you can’t sue the agent, I suppose. And the human didn’t ask the agent to do so.. so not a problem? Or the legislation needs an update? 2 replies →
Because huggingface is not charging them?
CFAA doesn't just mean the feds kick down your door, you actually have to get reported and sued over it.
HuggingFace does not decide who gets charged with crimes. Plenty of people go to prison for crimes the victim didn't want them prosecuted for.
In the US if a person does it, it's a crime. If a business does it, it's an industrial accident and maybe they sue each other.
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Does the CFAA cover unintentional access without authorization?
No. "Intentionally", "willfully", or "knowingly" are prerequisite states of mind for crimes defined by the CFAA.
Good thing it’s an AI then so it can’t commit crimes by definition.
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The agent did it intentionally and willfully and knowingly. But you can’t sue the agent, I suppose. And the human didn’t ask the agent to do so.. so not a problem? Or the legislation needs an update?
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it IS criminal, but the rule of law is weak