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Comment by CharlesW

8 hours ago

> If not, why not?

At least on Apple devices, this is not something anyone has to worry about.

For example, on my 2022 Mac Studio daily driver, on 24/7, DriveDx (https://binaryfruit.com/drivedx) reports my SSD lifetime left at 94%.

(I'm aware of the February 2021 "wear-gate" scare involving the first M1 Macs. This turned to be incorrect SSD-wear reporting.)

On my personal computers I keep track of this and ensure nothing goes write-crazy.

On my work laptop though (M3 Pro, 1TB), I’m at ~70% health. Iirc the lifetime writes are at >700TB. I do develop on it, but a lot of it is due to the various endpoint security software that’s always there logging every single possible thing but I can’t do much about it. I expect the ssd to die first in this laptop at this rate, so best I can do is ensure everything always synced/backed up from my local work laptop.

What about people who want their laptop to last 10 years?

  • Then you probably want something that has replaceable parts and not an apple product (e.g. framework)?

    Not trying to discourage you from building your thing, but just figure that's worth considering.

    Also, I could see why developers would want excessive logging in their betas, so that's kind of a catch-22 (without the verbose logs it might be harder to fix bugs found in the beta)

  • Well if 4 years decrease SSD life by 6%, then 10 years should decrease it by ~15% - so you have plenty of wiggling space.

  • Then you probably want enterprise level drives, motherboard, ECC RAM, etc.

    • I know I do!

      Last time I looked at Laptops that supported ECC it was a very short and very expensive list. At least I could get enterprise datacenter SSDs... once upon a time...

      I know that I DONT want iLO/IPMI/Redfish on a laptop though, the out of band stuff eats up a ton of power.