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Comment by mcv

5 days ago

That starting message is not encouraging:

> so many people who have made "coding with an LLM" their whole personality

As opposed to "coding without an LLM" being their whole personality? Neither of these are what a personality is. Comments like thesen are needlessly dismissive and not conducive to a healthy discussion.

Codeberg has every right to set their own standards, but the discussion around it is ugly and dismissive of many well-meaning developers.

I'll kindly disagree with you here. After you posted this reply, I have received an email, whose subject reads: "AI writes code in seconds, but here's what it's missing".

The mail, coming from Atlassian, is encouraging people to let swarms of agents loose to "develop" something from a simple prompt, and suggesting Jira can act as a context store with all the new features they implemented.

So, people are expected to make "coding with an LLM" their personality or modus operandi, unfortunately.

I agree that the discourse can be gentler, kinder and have a more open stance, yet Mastodon has this 500 character limit which causes statements to go blunt. I experience the same problem while trying to post there.

However, this doesn't invalidate Codeberg's stance. There's a slop problem everywhere, and people want to stop or slow it down. I'm in the same camp with Codeberg, and don't want vibe-coded applications pushed as man-made creations.

Also, to reiterate, Codeberg doesn't hardline the policy. They effectively ban vibe-coded projects, and if that matters, this is why I like them, and why I like some other services I use.

To close, yes, people are irritated by AI powered vibe-coding and respond too harshly, but I can understand them. Maybe we should understand why the "ugly" response exists before shunning them, so we can arrive to a more constructive place.