Comment by KitN
1 day ago
But that did save lives; I was able to know my family had Covid before the symptoms showed up. Happened with a lot of other people too.
1 day ago
But that did save lives; I was able to know my family had Covid before the symptoms showed up. Happened with a lot of other people too.
Indeed, and it would have saved far more lives if leveraged the app to have hazmat crews come in a forcibly carry the infected to quarantine zones.
Didn't actually this happen in China?
Maybe the videos were fake, but I saw at least a couple of this happening.
That was Australia. In China, they welded the doors to their housing units shut.
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I doubt it, unless their hazmat suits are bullet-proof.
Agreed, and I'm happy to live in a country where this is likely true. The only thing more deadly than pandemics are governments that gained sufficient power to round up their citizens systematically in the name of the public good.
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Please. You could defend yourself from first or second hazmat wearing person that comes to your house, it would be very much different story defending yourself from SWAT team, then remotely detonating drones, finally if it all fails, try to defend yourself against B52.
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Sadly that wasn't possible in the US political climate and maybe a million people lost their lives as a result.
I think they're being facetious, this is basically a distopian movie plot point.
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Was your short term safety at the expense of long term safety? (assuming rights erosion and government failures ultimately harms safety long-term).
Medicine is literally the source of the concept of side effects, the idea that some helpful interventions have simultaneous harmful impacts.
For large-scale infectious disease --- epidemiology and public health --- quarantine and infection/contact tracing are very tried and true containment methods. Yes, these impose costs, particularly on individual liberties. What's key is having a well-governed, principled, high-integrity, trustworthy government which makes clearly-justified decisions as to when to impose such restrictions, and when to lift them. Sadly, this has become more difficult in recent years.
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Fwiw what you are describing is literally survivorship bias.
We'd have to see the data to say wether it was true or bias. Perhaps comparing similar nations where one had Bluetooth contact tracing and the other didn't. I'm skeptical that it made much difference either way compared to the other factors.
Yes and I did not start with it.
Yes, similarly the other side of people who survived authoritarian governments.
I don't think it is a survivorship bias if most people survive from COVID19.
If they had administered properly people wouldn't have been to the streets and spread the virus in the first place!