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Comment by FranzFerdiNaN

4 days ago

Reading your comment I had to think of that tweet about someone taking a part of a Monet painting and claimed it was AI generated, and people immediately started calling it horrible and soulless and smelling like AI.

Obviously. Artistic value is not in the object, but in the relationships to other humans. The point is not Monet but the people you discuss Monet with. Monet is a tribal rallying point you can synchronize around. AI is not as good for this, because it's cheap. It's not scarce enough. And doesn't offer a human story you can bond around.

Okay but in this case the design aesthetic is already extremely similar to cyberpunk 2077 video game UIs. Maybe that was the OP's test, but to claim it's unique when it is not feels misleading. Derivative works are fine, but you need to ADD something as well. Taking this then adding another 12-20 hours of some animejs + css polish would make it stand out but as it is now it's just a copy.

Humans are capable of producing slop too. Maybe the cutout does look like AI. Given Monet's blurry style and repetitive content (he made 250 water lily paintings), this is not surprising. When you strip the cutout of its context, it can look more like AI too because the lighting and composition will look arbitraty compared to the whole picture.

Btw, if websites would only include the frontend dev's own hand painted images, we would also revolt at the sight of human slop. It's not just AI.

The whole point is that good artists are capable of producing non-slop, and to this day they're the only group of which this is reliably true.

  • It is because it is an image on a screen.

    Water Lilies are enormous paintings. They are breathtaking in person because of their scale. Monet wouldn't be Monet if he had only produced images on a screen.

    Art is good or it is shit, based on personal taste. Just like food, no one can tell me what food tastes good or tastes bad.

    AI Art seems to produce strong emotions in people who don't go to art galleries. I love modern art, I am a huge art snob but if you want to see slop, go to any modern art gallery. Personally, I would say for my taste, at least 70% of all art at any gallery is basically shit.

    Like food also, the presentation matters. To believe there is no possible way to print out a 6 foot tall by 10 foot long AI generated image that would look awesome hanging in a gallery is stupid.

    • Agreed except with

      > To believe there is no possible way to print out a 6 foot tall by 10 foot long AI generated image that would look awesome hanging in a gallery is stupid.

      Maybe if you have a really impressive pipeline where the AI does sketches, 3D models (assuming a 3D theme), keeps track of the lighting, brainstorms and reasons about ideas, keeps track of the world building (like for a cyberpunk painting),...

      Otherwise AI will just do AI things. You zoom in and see there are no strokes, no ideas behind the shapes, the shapes don't even connect well or wobble in weird ways, weird distortions that wouldn't happen if a human put down strokes to communicate the idea of an object. You zoom out and the composition is weirdly centered, almost like a logo, there is too much shading dedicated to make the objects pop, everything is weirdly inoffensive, smooth, and too consistent, not enough material/texture distinction on a per object basis.

      Not sure how else to explain it - you're the art snob anyway. Mostly focusing on 3D with my criticisms, but that's most of the AI art people use. Maybe it can do abstract better. Impressionism is somewhere inbetween, again, the Monet thing makes some sense to me. Then again, you could write a kick-ass procedural art generator running on a single core CPU, which would also be capable of couch or even gallery worthy outputs. So I don't want to argue the point too hard. Gallery art and product website images/thumbnails are too different in category - arguments for/against one don't translate to the other.