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Comment by anon291

20 hours ago

Let me be more clear.

There is a racial component to it that the American settlers did not have.

Gandhi and the original nationalists were English barristers who spoke English, believed in English institutions, were educated in England, and saw themselves as Englishmen and loyal subjects of the King.

That is how they've always seen themselves and how the average educated Indian saw themselves.

Gandhi's experiences in South Africa made him realize that no amount of education was going to make the English treat him the same simply because his skin made him not blend in. Gandhi is not the only person to see that. Lee yuan kew thought the same.

His first reaction was thinking he should prove Indian loyalty to the crown and this would win him points.

When that didn't work, he threw away all his tailored English suits and adopted (by show... It was all show) the habits of a Hindu holy man to lead his movements.

One can debate the efficacy or whatever but there was no great resistance to English rule. Many old Indians are neutral about it. That generation is dying though and the younger ones have a mythologized past.

So yes the degrees in this situation really mattered. The American settlers were seeking to forge a new nation with new institutions. The Indian nationalists just wanted to perpetuate English ones but were unable to do so under English rule.

What you describe, and the way you describe it, reads to me like a progressive application of the Saam, Daam, Dand, Bheda principle, attributed to the late great diplomat Chanakya.

Saam: First, they tried reason.

Daam: Then they demanded a price (Salt Satyagraha to initiate the Civil Disobedience Movement).

Danda: Then they moved to reject the regime entirely (Quit India). At a time when the colonial power was literally fighting on multiple fronts, in World War Two.

Bhed: Then they helped to throw them out, and attempt to build a whole new political identity.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saam_Daam_Dand_Bheda