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Comment by Arbortheus

13 hours ago

Toxic max security.

Not everyone has the same threat model as you, $BIGTECHCORP.

Isn't security just an excuse to push user hostile features?

Like, if security was a concern we would have simpler systems and still use 2fa devices for banks etc.

  • Sometimes it's truly useful featutes, but having no toggle in settings making it terrible.

    Like iPhone idle auto-reboot every 3 days. After a while they added "Allow Idle Reboot" flag but it only accessible via MDM and require device wipe and for switching it to be a managed device.

They dont care about security; only about control.

There are hundreds of millions of outdated Android devices that all Google attestation systems consider secure even though they all running Linux kernel that was never ever updated and can be rooted by anything.

Now try to install your own firmware on them without said outdated kernel... How dare you.

  • Technically the security works, just for their threat model. An exploit would need root and root means you likely cannot pass attestation AFAIK. The fact that this same exploiter can download all your contacts photos and texts is immaterial to, say, Disney, who want attestation only to prevent ripping of their content.

    • No it doesnt actually work because its possible to do privilege escalaction without tampering with firmware or filesystem or triggering other markera. OS will be practically rooted while passing attestation just fine.

      Only things attestation do is security theater and messing up people ability to use software of their choosing.

It's not even "max security". We are talking about those big tech corps which are infamous for sharing all of your private information with the government, and analyzing it so as to manipulate you in to buying things, and possibly for other obscure commercial purpuses.

  • They securely share your private info with their advertising partners. You know that no hackers that didnt pay google would get access to that information.