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Comment by _the_inflator

3 days ago

I understand Codeberg's standpoint. From their point of view I think it is only reasonable to sticking to your guns as well as mentioning, that at the end of the day there is no free lunch and LLM coding may be bloat to them.

I know the European scene since the 80th and know, that all projects are not what the rest of world think they are: free, and an alternative to anything that is US based.

European software devs are activists in the old-school meaning. In the 80th, they were crackers, hackers, and they looked for likeminded people. BTX scandal is only for very old veterans, as well as von Gravenreuth or Highscore.

I was part of the C64, Amiga scene and still have many friends their. Nevertheless we have very different attitudes today.

Without any irony I finally hope that people finally value that is provided by GitHub or other services from the Valley.

Trashing them or thinking, you just needed to host a service outside the US makes it a viable option is naiv.

I respect EU's and European devs' decisions, but I would never ever rely on them. I love the US and happy to be almost 100% not using European services.

Yes it reads "Software development, but free! Codeberg is a non-profit, community-led effort..." but you didn't know Germans or the fineprint. Codeberg is organized as "eingetragener Verein" and here you have the basis for what is considered free: https://codeberg.org/Codeberg/org/src/branch/main/en/bylaws....

Folks, this is politics, this is power struggle, this is what Germans call "Grabenkämpfe". If you aren't used to the lifestyle, you won't understand nor enjoy the ride.

I build an extremely successfully eV myself which still lives and thrives for 30 years now - without me.

Value GitHub, stay away from European "alternatives". They aren't.