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Comment by Nevermark

2 hours ago

It is amazing how the scales of time we consider are shrinking even as change is accelerating. We are concerned about individual changes, that will quickly be followed by cascades of more change.

> Something fundamental to the experience of mathematics is being taken.

That is the near term. At least "near term" like we talked about it five years ago. And it won't stop.

AI isn't a tame long term transition - in scale it is bigger than any transition since the first individual cells. In speed it is happening faster than web adoption. No human adoption bottleneck. They are taking the reins of our tools, and don't need human adaption to improve.

Ineffables, and our intellectual primacy are going away, right now, even as we think about it.

I am not making light of it. But not surprised, because how could AI not redefined everything.

But maybe not everything:

20 years from now, 50, 100, there will still be ineffable experiences at the frontiers, by different beings. I believe esoteric curiosity and the intrinsic rewards of discovery will continue. Our propensities to find idiosyncratic interests and pursuits, seek answers and adventures, exist in our psychology because the low median return is decisively outmatched the extremely hight mean returns of unanticipated progress. The benefits of many pursuits will be even greater for them.

It seems unlikely to me, that future beings will become less interesting.

I relate to the author. Anyone who isn't feeling butterflies or stones in their stomach, isn't really processing the moment.

> AI isn't a tame long term transition - in scale it is bigger than any transition since the first individual cells

You might need to put the phone / keyboard down, take a day off...

  • I am completely calm and serious. This should be mundane, obvious by now.

    I find it unfathomable that anyone doesn't recognize that the move from an evolutionary substrate, to engineered mass produced substrates, by beings capable of self-engineering, is the beginning of a new explosion of life.

    The speed of engineered adaptation, from materials to architectures, vs. biological evolution is already something like a million times faster.

    Fast enough to mean meaningful cognitive progress happening in months, not tens of thousands of years. Which entirely not-coincidentally is exactly what we are seeing.