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Comment by moffkalast

3 hours ago

Yep, add a few blank layers, fine tune it a tiny bit and the weight checksums nor parameter counts won't match with anything, while the model will be practically the exact same. Time and time again random startups have tried passing established open models as their own.

"You made this? I made this."

Of course a conspicuous architecture would still give it away.

someone can run tests and see that models output exactly the same results, and then you are open to criminal investigation.

  • On something that is inherently non-deterministic? Something which is also to a great extent distilled from other frontier models, meaning it has the possibility to generate similar outputs to those meaning that just pattern detection might also not be as effective? Easier to ban everything that’s open, than try to figure out which one of them is Chinese

    • Now imagine prosecutor found expert, who said there is benchmark which while performing 100k test questions found it is the same model with 98% probability, and then you need under oath testify where did you get this model.

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  • Many of these models will report that they are Claude. It’s going to be difficult to overcome reasonable doubt.

  • Except that even the exact same model won't output the exact same results, that's a fundamental aspect of how LLMs work. They're probabilistic/stochastic, not deterministic.