EDIT: I won't pretend to know much about the history of the conflict. But the thing that made me lean towards supporting Ukraine was the widespread Russian rhetoric that "Ukraine doesn't exist, the Ukrainian language doesn't exist, they are just Russians". Such imperialistic attitude and the resulting asymmetry is incompatible with any attempt to shame Ukraine at not being perfect in the treatment of Russian minorities in Ukraine. All while ukrainian children are kidnapped and resettled in Russia to become Russians.
> Unless of course you are actually pro-Russian and you're just playing this game at a higher level in which case... congrats because that is effective
I seriously thought this was the case, but looking at the post history, it's probably a question of Hanlon's Razor.
Poster appears to be Ukrainian, and clueless.
Russian trolls feed on these types, unfortunately, and they end up polarized quickly enough.
That's the amplification in these disinformation wars.
I admire anyone who has the energy to fight on the informational front, but I think that's mostly pointless. People who haven't decided on their stance in this war are a minority.
We have IMO, an informational stalemate, with russians having much better positions, unfortunately, thanks to their network of agents covering entire planet, and huge investments over the last two decades (and even before that: the entire Bandera horror-story is their work from soviet times, because Bandera been fighting russian soviet colonizers).
Those a bit smarter have figured that you can not trust a single word coming from russians. Their methods have been studied, described, and presented.
Those who keep repeating russian propaganda, will continue doing so until russia is defeated militarily (and I'm not saying that's gonna happen soon, or even during my lifetime, those folks in EU better prepare).
That's the point he's making though - this kind of response just validates Russian propaganda, makes Russia look good and makes Ukraine look bad.
If you want Ukraine to win the information war then this isn't that helpful?
Unless of course you are actually pro-Russian and you're just playing this game at a higher level in which case... congrats because that is effective
Are there Ukrainian schools in Russia?
EDIT: I won't pretend to know much about the history of the conflict. But the thing that made me lean towards supporting Ukraine was the widespread Russian rhetoric that "Ukraine doesn't exist, the Ukrainian language doesn't exist, they are just Russians". Such imperialistic attitude and the resulting asymmetry is incompatible with any attempt to shame Ukraine at not being perfect in the treatment of Russian minorities in Ukraine. All while ukrainian children are kidnapped and resettled in Russia to become Russians.
> Unless of course you are actually pro-Russian and you're just playing this game at a higher level in which case... congrats because that is effective
I seriously thought this was the case, but looking at the post history, it's probably a question of Hanlon's Razor.
Poster appears to be Ukrainian, and clueless.
Russian trolls feed on these types, unfortunately, and they end up polarized quickly enough.
That's the amplification in these disinformation wars.
I admire anyone who has the energy to fight on the informational front, but I think that's mostly pointless. People who haven't decided on their stance in this war are a minority.
We have IMO, an informational stalemate, with russians having much better positions, unfortunately, thanks to their network of agents covering entire planet, and huge investments over the last two decades (and even before that: the entire Bandera horror-story is their work from soviet times, because Bandera been fighting russian soviet colonizers).
Those a bit smarter have figured that you can not trust a single word coming from russians. Their methods have been studied, described, and presented.
Those who keep repeating russian propaganda, will continue doing so until russia is defeated militarily (and I'm not saying that's gonna happen soon, or even during my lifetime, those folks in EU better prepare).
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