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Comment by acmnrs

16 hours ago

Porforr<https://porffor.dev> has been working towards the same goal for a while. The creator, CanadaHonk<https://honk.foo>, is extremely talented and the project still only passes ~68% of Test262. I'm more than a little suspicious of how Vercel has made so much progress so fast, unless I'm misunderstanding the scope of this project.

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simonw  16 hours ago

> I'm more than a little suspicious of how Vercel has made so much progress so fast

Coding agents. They landed 918,000 lines of code in a single week: https://github.com/vercel-labs/scriptc/graphs/contributors?s...

  • homebrewer  13 hours ago

    Christ. Imagine if bridges, skyscrapers, dams, cars, airplanes were designed and built like that.

    I vibeslopped thousands of pages of blueprints, nobody reviewed them, but another team of digital monkeys with the intellect of an ant have already built the bridge, and it seems to not have collapsed yet, so we're already directing traffic there.

    I can't imagine actual engineers feeling anything but deepest contempt for this industry.

    • satvikpendem  13 hours ago

      "Actual engineers" don't really care about software engineering, much less a strong emotion at all like the "deepest contempt" and many of them already vibe code today for their work anyway.

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    • antonvs  12 hours ago

      > already built the bridge, and it seems to not have collapsed yet, so we're already directing traffic there.

      “Actual” engineering went through a phase where bridges and other structures did collapse due to structural flaws - it’s not like they magically figured out ahead of time how to avoid that.

      Now, they can build structures that are some specified tolerance away from collapsing, but that’s only the case because the edges of what was possible were explored.

  • acmnrs  16 hours ago

    That makes sense. It also seems like this uses a lot more dependencies and tiers of compilation whereas Porforr is trying to do everything from scratch.

  • pizlonator  16 hours ago

    That explains why:

    - the architecture is idiotic.

    - they have zero credible perf numbers.

    I plan to benchmark it using generally accepted methods.

    Porffor makes careful trade offs that make sense and is benchmarked in a way that I can believe.

    (Source: I make dynamic languages fast for a living)

    • bbor  16 hours ago

      Putting aside the whole “team of professionals putting out a product vs solo dev fine tuning their opus” of it all:

      Can you clarify what about the architecture is ‘idiotic’? Not trying to catch you or demand a defense, just looking for a vague description. I don’t even know how to start examining the architecture of something like this.

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