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Comment by dist-epoch

12 hours ago

> if "labs are subsidising tokens on API pricing"

> SemiAnalysis estimates that Anthropic's current blended gross margin has risen to the mid-60% range, with the API business gross margin exceeding 80%

Of course, people will insist "they are lying", "why should we believe them, it's well known they subsidize API pricing", ...

https://newsletter.semianalysis.com/p/anthropic-3q26-profit-...

https://finance.biggo.com/news/02d45650-b569-4d12-b44d-8d6d8...

Agreed. My (somewhat educated) guess is that top labs have healthy margins on API pricing. But this release will add another 3rd party / clear of conflict datapoint in this estimation.

even deepseek, with their current (dirt cheap) price, can earn enough profit to cover the cost (hardware investment?) in 10 months.

  • Will the model even be competitive in 10 months though? Seems like models that reach top 20 on OpenRouter see 50% of all token spend by day 80, and 80% by day 180.

    • As long as the hardware can be used on newer models, hardware costs can be recouped running a future model.

      But if they're hoping to recoup non-recurring engineering costs rather than just hardware costs, they do need to consider the useful lifetime of the specific model.