7.1 Earthquake in Japan

17 hours ago (data.jma.go.jp)

  - at least 50 hospitalized due to various injuries[1]
  - 9 missing, 12 house collapses, 4 trappings, 7 fires so far[1]
  - multiple highway road bridges snapped, roads damaged[2]
  - AEON brand shopping mall exploded following evacuation, cause unknown[3]
  - chimney collapsed at Nippon Seishi paper factory[4]
  - TSMC, Sony, Fujifilm chips, imagers, materials plants evacuated[4]
  - epicenter reported as 32.6N 130.7E[5], roughly 20km/12mi south of previous major earthquake[7], 
    320km/200mi SE from Busan, 650km/400mi from Seoul, 900km/550mi WSW from Tokyo, likewise 900km/550mi
    due east from Shanghai, 1200km/730mi due south to Vladivostok, etc
  - stone wall behind a moat damaged again at Kumamoto castle[8]

1: https://news.web.nhk/newsweb/na/na-k10015188641000 2: https://news.web.nhk/newsweb/na/na-k10015188611000 3: https://news.web.nhk/newsweb/na/na-k10015188721000 4: https://news.web.nhk/newsweb/na/na-k10015188691000 5: https://www.nikkei.com/article/DGXZQOGM287FG0Y6A720C2000000/ 6: https://www.data.jma.go.jp/multi/quake/quake_detail.html?eve... 7: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Kumamoto_earthquakes?uses... 8: https://search.yahoo.co.jp/realtime/search/tweet/20820057608...

  • > TSMC, Sony, Fujifilm chips, imagers, materials plants evacuated

    This makes me think, is it wise to build these places in regions with known earthquake trends.

    Almost no earthquakes in Korea and Samsung fabs are also located in the most safe area within Korea.

    • Japan itself is involved with a lot of the R&D, the factories are there because of that and because of major buyers also being there. It’s not like we’re going to evacuate the hundred million plus of Japan.

This was my first real earthquake since moving to Kyushu. After it stopped I looked it up, and the first place to post the epicenter and shindo was NERV's twitter...which is named after the org from the anime and has an anime screenshot as its banner (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38835419).

  • It started as a Twitter account during the Tohoku 2011 earthquake, and then subsequently became a “real” service; the IP owners for the Eva agreed to let them use it going forward.

  • The Nerv app is quite good. It usually gives real-time alerts faster than the official sources.

    You can even have the weird experience of being notified of an earthquake, watching the shockwave move outward from the epicenter, and feeling it as it passes.

In parts of Kumamoto Prefecture, it registered 7 on the Japanese shindo (seismic intensity) scale, which reflects the amount of ground shaking at a particular location. The shindo is a better indicator of the likely amount of damage than the magnitude is. A shindo of 7 is extremely strong [1].

Ten minutes ago (at around 17:15 p.m. Japan time), NHK was reporting that there were many emergency calls coming in from Uki City, where shindo 7 was recorded, but that the extent of the damage or injuries was not yet known.

There have also been many aftershocks, including some strong ones, and tsunami warnings.

[1] https://www.jma.go.jp/jma/en/Activities/jishintsunami/jishin...

I'm living in the South of Japan, it was a 4 intensity where I am (about 90km) from the epicenter. Luckily there was only some light shaking and nothing fell over here.

Kumamoto is barely finished rebuilding from the last quake, you can still see cracks in structures as you drive down the road. This is really horrible; not to mention the city is already beginning to depopulate as the youth move north to Fukuoka.

  • It's my understanding that small to medium sized cities (and rural areas) depopulating is going on now throughout almost all of Japan. One of the things that really surprised me recently is how low the cost of real estate is for an older, normal middle class home in some sparsely populated areas of Japan.

    Apparently the declining population and younger people not wanting to live in their parents' rural countryside home is having a significant effect on property values.

  • I wouldn't let this get in the way of going there though. Kumamoto is a very nice prefecture to see. They will rebuild (again) and it'll continue to be a great place.

    • No I mean of course, I thought Kumamoto was very nice and I especially enjoyed visiting Mt Aso, I was lucky enough to see into the crater and hike around the peaks

I hope everyone is safe in Kumamoto. In my area, we have been repeatedly warned that a major earthquake called the Nankai Trough is likely to occur in the last few years or decades, so I am very scared of big earthquakes happening in other areas as well.

Fukuoka here (about 100km from Kumamoto) and definitely felt it, so it must have been a real big one in Kumamoto itself.

My friend was driving home from work closer to Miyazaki and didn't feel the quake, but had huge hailstones hitting his car. There's a rapture going on or something

Was looking at webcams here (https://tokyo.fyi) but realized this is further south.

  • Found a few online webcams, but I'm not really sure I saw the earthquake. People didn't even seem to stop on the webcam I was watching. Lots of cars on the bridge afterwards though while before it there were much less, idk

    • Some of the webcams are fake fwiw, I noticed a while ago when there were ads emblassened with old dates on them.

      Edit: to be clear, this was random ones on YouTube, not sure about that site.

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Does anyone know if this also affects South Korea?

And you will hear of wars and rumors of wars. See that you are not alarmed, for this must take place, but the end is not yet. For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom, and there will be famines and earthquakes in various places. All these are but the beginning of the birth pains.

I'm in Fukuoka. We had shindo 3 here.

My phone alarm went off just before the shaking, but the thing that really surprised me was how strong it felt. I instinctively ran outside.

I hope everyone closer to the epicenter is safe.

It’s been officially revised down to 6.8, but that’s still a lot.

Hope the residents of Kumamoto Prefecture stay safe and are able to evacuate.

arent they trying to make silicon fabs there?

  • Not like earthquakes are unheard of in Taiwan or South Korea either.

    Buildings are going to be more expensive (base isolation and an extra commie blocks worth of reinforced concrete), but given how expensive fab equipment is, that might not even matter all that much.

    • Earthquake isolation can be pretty amazing. Here’s a video of a data center during the big 2011 quake. The camera is attached to the outer wall so the point of reference makes the wrong side look like it’s shaking, but you can see the people walking without difficulty during some pretty heavy shaking. A fab will have even better stuff.

      https://youtu.be/GXwQSCStRaw

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    • South Korea? Almost nil. It's not known to be a seismological region.

      Taiwan, Japan have far more exposure to a long history of earthquakes, tsunamis.

      For Taiwan, there is another existential threat man made.

It is currently summer vacation season in Japan, so we expect there to be many tourists. We hope everyone stays safe.

7.1 seems to mean non resistant buildings may collapse.

Hope everybody is staying safe in Japan but this will not be the last earthquake, there are many experts pointing this as the beginning with even bigger magnitude coming up.

I'd strongly caution against a Japan trip right now.

For anyone that had their heart skip a beat like me:

"The Japanese Nuclear Energy Agency says no damage has been detected at three nearby nuclear power plants."

Why does this earthquake, of similar magnitude, get so much more attention compared to the recent Venezuelan earthquake last month that was 100x more devastating? There was no commentary on HN about it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_Venezuela_earthquakes

  • I live in an earthquake prone area and thought Japan was cutting edge in earthquake protection. Beyond the obvious concern for other human beings, I am interested in why there was so much damage from what I would have thought was still a relatively manageable size earthquake for them. I am here trying to learn a lesson that I would not expect to learn from Venezuelan infrastructure and earthquake response.

    • It is also the timing of building booms. Problems being exposed have triggered regulations and enforcement in Venezuela but that is relatively recent and much inventory was built decades before.

  • The speed of videos coming out was a little slower so it lost the HN attention span - but it was definitely a hot topic in many other news places - Reddit, X, etc...

Tldr; Seems like major cities didn't get hit by the earthquake at 7 scale.

Hoping for zero casualities.

  • Apparently there is a risk for tsunami so Japanese govt has issued a further alert. Hope it isn't anything too bad either

    • Haven't seen anything on the Tsunami global warning list so hopefully it's okay. Earthquake looks centered on land which (to my unofficial understanding) means low risk of Tsunami but of course higher chance of direct damage

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8 is serious. 9 is Pacific subduction rupture.

7 is not really top news of the day.

People with friends and family exposed don't really appreciate being false-alarmed with 7s and 6s.

  • I'm sure everyone in the hospital and with collapsed houses would agree with your assessment that it's not a big deal.

    • Okay. Let's make every such instance news?

      HN is exaggerating to feel close to the action. It's childish.

      There is a trench off of Tokyo that is likely to rupture in our lifetimes, and people who have other people to check on don't care about HN's disaster fantasies.

  • The HN audience decides what is top news of the day, that’s the whole principle this website is based upon