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Comment by MostlyStable

14 hours ago

It is entirely possible to believe multiple things at once:

1. The drop is fertility is bad for society

2. The drop in teen pregnancy is good, despite it's contributions to 1

3. We should try to fix 1. without undoing 2.

I agree, but I don't think #3 is possible. For a variety of reasons, both biological and societal, the older people get the less likely they are to have kids, and fewer of them.

  • Kiryas Joel, New York, has astronomically high fertility, but also extremely low rates of under-18 pregnancy - which proves the combination is possible.

    • That is an exceptional outlier. It's almost entirely (>90%) made up of one religious group that has strict cultural rules about early marriage and having many children.

      That's not something typical outside of that one particular group, nor can you copy-paste that anywhere else.

      I think in fact it's the opposite. Because of how universal below-replacement rates are in EVERY developed nation, it shows just how independent it is from factors of culture, economics, environment, etc. It takes a seriously unusual situation like the one in Kiryas Joel for below-replacement to not be the norm.

Fundamentalists, and others who abhor birth control, demonstrate pretty regularly that they have no issue with Teen Pregnancy, but rather unmarried teen pregnancy.

They want married teen pregnancy. By their own admission.