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Comment by maxdo

4 hours ago

is kimi that cheap? it's a very expensive model

It's cheaper currently on many of the inference providers.

Personally, I'm having surprisingly good results with DeepSeek 4 Pro at home, which is very good value for money: it's not as good as Claude / GPT 5.6 (I have Co-pilot license at work), but it's still really useful for code reviews, validating thoughts, and especially designing / writing unit tests for new (and old before refactoring) functionality.

And it's very cheap per task. (Flash is even cheaper, but I've had issues with that on more complex tasks where it starts forgetting things and arguing with itself "but wait, let me read the function again").

  • DeepSeek V4 Pro is ridiculously priced, especially when you take into account caching. According to the DeepSeek usage panel, 50M tokens have cost me $1.38. It's not the smartest and does like to overthink, but if you have well defined problems it's good for coding. Well... except all your data going to China. I just use it for personal projects.

  • I toggle back and forth between deepseek v 4 flash/pro on FireWorks.ai using OpenCode. Easy to toggle, I default to flash.

  • I tried out deepseek v4 pro via a couple providers from openrouter, and it's always getting 429s. Are you running it on your own hardware?

    • I wish!!

      No, I'm using it via OpenRouter in pi.dev - I just used it 30 mins ago... Providers (automatically selected): StreamLake and Baidu Qianfan.