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Comment by iamjackg

5 hours ago

Holy crap, I was not prepared for how fast it responded. I just wrote "Just wanted to see how fast you are! Can you write me a quick story about a tiger who lives inside a block of cheese the size of a house?"

I pressed Enter, and the response was instant.

> Generated in 0.037s • 14,205 tok/s

This is unbelievable.

It's crazy. Are they doing any precomputing as you type, I wonder if you paste a block of text is it the same speed.

  • The magic is in the fact that they essentially have an ASIC llm device. There is no other trickery. The problem they will face is that it is actually locked in silicon, so upgrading models will be difficult, and likely require new hardware each time.

  • I pasted and instantly hit enter on this prompt: "I generated a filter set using REW v5.31.3 using real-world sweep tone measurements from the room I'm listening in . How can I use it as my MacOS output equalizer so that my spotify music is adjusted for this room and speakers"

    and it gave a very reasonable answer in non-perceptible time.

  • No, it really does take ~0.03s to generate the answer. Try your browser's developer tools and watch the requests.

    • Isn't it crazy that we can send a message, across the world near instantaneously and have a coherent reply, generated by a computer, sent back to your screen, in under 500ms in most circumstances.

      I find myself getting caught up in the sheer speed of modern computing and networking. The fact I can play an online game with 10 other people is just insane.

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"Stochastic gradient descent algorithm in Haskel"

"LMS algorithm in bash"

Just barfed it up lol.

Amazing.

I'd like to imagine the things that can be done with this speed and the current frontier models.

  • Fully interactive games where you can talk to every NPC by text or voice and have an LLM drive the story (with your own meta prompts to guide it, if you so wish). Maybe even have them generate assets on the fly too.

    I’m still trying to figure out coding agents. I can’t even begin to imagine the things it would enable. Even the most mundane ideas like LLMs-in-HiFreq-trading have huge implications.

    • 0.03 seconds is an eternity in high frequency trading

      You need to be 4 orders of magnitude faster at least

  • Seriously, if Fable or even Opus was this fast that would be a real game changer.

    • RSI will be models better than Fable running faster than this, you won't even need a human in the loop to figure out what to do. The high level goal will be accomplished better than the human in an instant

Just wow, I made a similar request. Result: Generated in 0.042s • 14,201 tok/s

This is crazy.

For what its worth the frontier lab models can surely be a lot faster if they wanted them to be but theyre supply constrained so theyre doing stuff like multi tenancy. Since you cant self host them no one outside the labs really knows speed as a solo tenant

  • You can kind of get a sense by running these things at home - I'm currently running Laguna. One interesting thing is that per stream doesn't actually slow down that much with multiple concurrents, because the bottleneck remains the memory bandwidth until pretty significant request depths, and then eventually you hit the GPU's limits. It's one of the big forces that pushes for centralization in this stuff, the fixed costs to run one are huge, the marginal costs of additional tenants, relatively small.