Comment by cautiouscat
10 hours ago
Your original point was:
> This is the same level of arguing that only painting is the real art and photography is just clicking the button
And my point was that these two comparisons aren’t the same. They aren’t the same because photography is an art form and so is painting. They both have essence that I think AI generated art won’t capture.
For example, if someone showed you a photograph of a buffalo that had a bird also in the frame on a fence post. How would you react?
Then let’s say they go “oh well, I actually photoshopped that in from another photograph I took.”
You might be a little less impressed but they still took this picture of a bird.
Then instead of them saying they cut and paste the bird in they say “Oh Photoshop generatively added that in.”
I think many if not most people would think that’s far less interesting than the other two scenarios. Maybe you don’t, and that’s fine.
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-023-45202-3 is a good read on this with regards to the “value” of art.
You argue with a point that I don’t make.
If a director during montage or review will say: “that shot will be better if camera was 2 feet higher, we need to reshoot” or “that extra takes too much attention from main character, can we remove it digitally”, and the author will prompt the same to ai, for their generated videos (that I’m quite sure will be enabled in next years) - this is the same art. creative process is constrained by available tools, but they don’t define it.
Do you think that people posed for medieval family paintings at the same time?
I see your reasoning a lot in many areas, and in my pov it’s just a final, conceding attempt of gatekeeping.
Painters telling photographers that there is no soul in photography. Film photographers telling the same to digital photographers. Woodworkers telling that cnc’s are not woodworking. Musicians telling that only live music matters and recording doesn’t capture all nuances 100 years ago. Guitarists owning and used hundreds of pedals and amps telling that to digital modeling.