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Comment by dofm

9 hours ago

The comparison is the unambiguous gains for society union labour organisation achieved through industrial history, which was a clear public good, and what is lost if there are no longer unions to defend those gains.

Stuff can go backwards and currently in the USA absolutely is going backwards, at a federal, state and commercial level. Unions, even in their flawed American form, are a force pushing back on that.

You still need them. In just the same way that you still need continued vaccination to protect the gains made by vaccination.

I am obviously not bothered if you reject my points; I am disappointed with the way you argue, though.

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ericmay  9 hours ago

> The comparison is the unambiguous gains for society union labour organisation achieved through industrial history, which was a clear public good, and what is lost if there are no longer unions to defend those gains.

It's a loose comparison. I think vaccines are a much more clear public good.

> Stuff can go backwards and currently in the USA absolutely is going backwards, at a federal, state and commercial level. Unions, even in their flawed American form, are a force pushing back on that.

Ok... https://apnews.com/article/trump-chavezderemer-labor-secreta...

> You still need them. In just the same way that you still need continued vaccination to protect the gains made by vaccination.

I'm not sure we need them. I don't need one. But I do need vaccines and society at large to be vaccinated.