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Comment by 2190asfg

6 hours ago

Company that resells openclaw and closed providers preaches about open source.

The new personalization talking point appears to be coordinated. It is all over the Internet since last week.

Problem is, 99.99% of people (including developers) do not need "personalized" software, unless you mean Emacs style.

> The new personalization talking point appears to be coordinated. It is all over the Internet since last week.

I agree with you.

They are manipulating public opinion, fooling users.

  • Hi, author here. FWIW, the only people I coordinated with are my colleagues at exe.dev. Philip wrote a blog post a week ago on the topic too: https://blog.exe.dev/customizing-shelley. In retrospect, I should have sent drafts of this to other people I know thinking about new dev tooling to get their feedback! A bit more private discussion could have let me polish this more.

    We are all busy discovering the shape of new tools and norms as our profession has been overturned by LLMs. It is not too surprising similar ideas are floating about. Though I have not seen anything that captured how I now go about personalizing programs, and how I expect it to change our industry. So I wrote this.

Resells OpenClaw? What are you on about? and exe has no markup through their LLM gateway. Maybe educate yourself before talking smack about an awesome little company and platform like exe.dev.

exe.dev has quickly become my platform of choice for hosting, testing, playing and tinkering. I haven't had this much fun playing with a providers offerings since VMs were a new thing. You have no idea what you're talking about here and should do a little research on them first. What you are saying they are, is not that.

  • Yes exe.dev is the first cloud provider I actually enjoy using. It's easy to manage with just ssh and they give me real disks. The lack of real (EBS is still networked) persistent disks on ec2 instances causes me a lot of pain at $WORK.

  • https://exe.dev/docs/shelley/llm-gateway

    "The exe.dev LLM gateway provider source within an LLM integration remains supported. It provides exe.dev-managed access to Anthropic, OpenAI, and Fireworks models. Your subscription includes a monthly token allocation, and you can purchase additional tokens at https://exe.dev/user/shelley."

    The access to closed platforms is managed according to the docs.

    • You don't need to use the LLM integration at all if you choose not to and even without it, it's a lovely service.

      I've used the LLM only a few times to make a few sysadmin tasks easier that I could have easily done myself.

    • And? It's a convenience for their users (and most users for sure want this) for easy access to frontier closed and also open models (Fireworks). They advise also there is no markup or profit made for them in providing this managed gateway.

      I guess I don't understand the OP's point even. Is there some conflict with providing this service and still being passionate about open source? IMV the answer is no.

      Their main software product, Shelley, is open source: https://github.com/boldsoftware/shelley