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Comment by vel0city

3 hours ago

Yes. Using forced prison labor is using slave labor.

Are the prisoners given no choice?

I’m okay with it either way - as long as prison time isn’t unjust.

  • AMENDMENT XIII

    Section 1.

    Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

    Slavery still exists in the USA. This isn't the same as job programs for reinsertion like in other countries - this is openly described as slavery.

    And if you doubt it, see these:

    https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/inmates-at-louisianas-an...

    https://www.themarshallproject.org/2024/06/22/prison-slavery...

  • At what point is it forced/not forced to you?

    This was related to an Arizona Correctional Industries prison labor contract. In Arizona, labor is mandatory. They either work in these corporate-tied programs or they have to work some other kind of job at the prison. Is that really a choice?

    • How much choice do you have? I know I don't have much. Either work or go without health care, shelter, and food. All I get to do is choose the job. Sounds like they do too.

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