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Comment by tkel

2 months ago

Does your LLM have hardware drivers in it? this is silly.

I'm obviously not saying that LLMs replace the glue between hardware and software. That would be absurd.

An operating system is just the interface a user has to the programs they run on their computer. Surely you can imagine a world where you boot into a ChatGPT-like interface instead of the desktop OS you are familiar with?

Different computing paradigms already exist: mobile OS sure, but also ChromeOS... heck, install Arch Linux and you're dropped into a shell by default - not a GUI. How is this so different?

And it doesn't even have to replace your existing OS to be your operating system: If you purchase a cloud VM (say from AWS or DigitalOcean), you're likely running an operating system on top of another operating system already.

  • You seem to have a wrong definition of operating system in your head. The definition of Operating System is "The main software that manages a computer's hardware and software."

    An operating system is definitely not "just the interface a user has to the programs they run on their computer."

    > If you purchase a cloud VM...

    Then the operating system there is the link between the interface you are accessing and the underlying hardware on the physical server.

    An operating system is not just something that opens apps, it is the thing that lets you type, use a mouse, and see things on a screen. LLMs cannot do any of that, they are an app which runs on an OS.

    • "The definition"? Whose? There are many definitions of "operating system" and I think it may be you who has it wrong: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operating_system#Definition_an...

      Having a kernel, drivers, or firmware does not disqualify an operating system focused on LLM-usage from being an "agent operating system."

      Do you agree that Android is an OS, or would you say that the OS is Linux and Android is simply a distribution? Is the operating system "Windows 11" or is it Windows NT kernel? Is UEFI an OS? ChromeOS? Language isn't always black-and-white.

      You seemed to miss the cloud computing point: are you running one OS, or two? Does one OS running on top of another OS with virtualized hardware count? If yes, then why do you think an agent OS is incompatible with a traditional OS?

      > An operating system is not just something that opens apps, it is the thing that lets you type, use a mouse, and see things on a screen. LLMs cannot do any of that, they are an app which runs on an OS.

      An OS is all of these things. I never once claimed that an agent operating system would have a kernel which "is" an LLM. This is an absurd interpretation.

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Agreed, its like OSes have become so invisible people have actually forgotten what they do.