Comment by brandall10
9 hours ago
Yeah, a bit surprised that the top comments aren't discussing losing Dean, he's been a figurehead for the company for decades. It's like Apple losing Ive in a way.
EDIT: "figurehead" - that's all I meant. A notable, public figure from the company who is credited with having a significant impact on its evolution. I'm not making a judgement call on his departure, or Ive's, being good or bad.
That said... just give it a couple years, they'll be back in a lucrative aquihire.
Losing Ive was probably a good thing for Apple. I often feel that after a few years these big guys have done what they could do and somebody else can take it from there. So far even losing Jobs didn’t hurt Apple as it looks.
The MacBooks certainly got a lot better and more usable.
Anyone remember the touchpad MBP with no physical escape key and the butterfly keyboard?
(Respect to many of Ive’s great legacy though)
Jony Ive wanted to chop down all the trees at De Anza Community College for something like 11 million dollars for an Apple event. There's a lot of ways he was demanding in the wrong ways for Apple
Man, I'd never heard that story, so I verified it. Turns out it was about two dozen trees and 25 million dollars, just to put up a big tent for an Apple launch event. (Yes, the trees were removed.) What a tool, he just lost my respect.
> Losing Ive was probably a good thing for Apple.
The position that I have rather often read on the internet is: Jonathan Ive did very good work at Apple as long as there was a counterpart who could steer his creative vision. This counterpart was of course Steve Jobs. When Steve Jobs died, there wasn't such a counterpart anymore, so Ive's work for Apple got much worse.
> So far even losing Jobs didn’t hurt Apple as it looks.
Who knows? Pure speculation? You can also say if Jobs was still around they could have 10x-ed it even further?
Apple car could have been a thing? Apple could have been way ahead and actually competing in AI and data centers? Who knows what else Jobs could have came up with?
Not enough to make an obvious dent perhaps. Nobody says Cook-era the same way they say Ballmer-era.
Like Ive? So you mean it’s good for Google?
> It's like Apple losing Ive in a way.
Are you sure we should compare it like this? Not sure it implies what you think it does...
Tell us what we’re missing.
The other commenter said it, quoting "Losing Ive was probably a good thing for Apple."
So the parent comment would imply that losing Dean is a good thing for Google, which is way less likely here.