Comment by maplant
9 hours ago
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as GNU/Linux, is in fact, just Linux.
9 hours ago
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as GNU/Linux, is in fact, just Linux.
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact systemd/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, systemd plus Linux.
Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather one more free component of a fully functioning systemd system, made useful by the systemd unit files, target definitions and vital service managers comprising a full OS as defined by Lennart Poettering.
Many computer users run a modified version of the systemd system every day without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of systemd which is widely used today is often called "Linux," and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the systemd system, developed by the systemd project.
There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. Chiefly systemd-udevd, systemd-journald, systemd-resolved, systemd-networkd, systemd-timesyncd, systemd-logind, systemd-homed, systemd-boot, and systemd-oomd, which decides which of your remaining programs deserve to live The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete set of systemd unit files.
I’ve recently taken to calling it GNU minus Linux.
Are you saying that Hurd will also kill Google/Linux?
What I'm saying is that Hurd is just a kernel in the same way that Linux is also just a kernel
The snark artist in me would say that Linux is a kernel plus tens of millions of lines of code that absolutely should not be in the kernel but are.
Hurd specifically includes a userspace. Its kernel is Mach.
Yeah GNU hasn't really been involved for a long time. It's Mozilla/Linux in reality. Not to mention the totally GNU-free distributions, like Alpine.
If you read the historical archives, Gnu was kinda late in the game with Linux. They were distributing the Joliets 386-BSD and NetBSD and had some drama with trying to do Linux. Debian is a historical spinoff of this.
I gave a conference talk about this about 4 years ago. There may be slight errors in my recollection
Where would someone read more about that history? Sounds up my alley:)
The efforts people will go to in order to avoid GPL3. Makes you wonder why?
No, what they're referring to as a GNU/Linux is in fact GNU Hurd.