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Comment by AussieWog93

14 hours ago

On the subject of learning something... Compare your comment to the sibling from Flashtoo. One is genuinely inquisitive and displaying willingness to learn, the other is just dunking all over someone.

One thing that grates with that style of comment though is the implication (whether intended or not) that the link/post author wasted time and could have just had an LLM do it instead. And I think it’s important that we make clear that that style of comment is not welcome here.

If there’s elaboration on why an LLM is being used… do it in the original comment? Otherwise it’s just annoying and serves no purpose

  • I don't think anyone's implying that people writing software by hand, especially as a hobby, are wasting their time. Like not even if you attribute unreasonably bad faith can you extract that out.

    We're living in an amazing time where an algorithm running on a GPU can create novel things by itself and it's just exciting to share what it can do.

    I love reading about what people have managed to get running with Claude, because honestly it's amazing that these models can do any of the things they're now doing.

    I also enjoy seeing what crazy, cool creative things people are doing.

  • > that the link/post author wasted time and could have just had an LLM do it instead. And I think it’s important that we make clear that that style of comment is not welcome here.

    So if someone talks about how "X" was hard and the first comment mentions there's a library to do "X", is that rude? Or is there a carve-out for the scary AI?

    If someone came in with a story about how they were able to easily create an N64 game with No-code/AI/Libraries and the first comment was "ha! I did the same thing in a cave with a box of scraps" that would also be rude.

    God forbid people share anecdotes about projects they were working on. On HN...

I agree with dwroberts here. Flashtoo's comment is indeed a better faith engagement on paper, but you should consider the question whether the root comment was deserving of such good faith engagement in the first place.

Going into a post where someone talks about their cool programming hobby project that they do for fun to say "I just made this with AI instead, it was so easy and I didn't even have to do anything myself" is effectively also dunking on the author and disrespecting/devaluing the effort they put into whatever they submitted, just in a slightly more indirect way. Personally, if I read such a comment under something I created, I'd feel way more insulted than if they just called me a slur or something.

These sorts of comments are everywhere on HN now, every single post not directly related to AI has someone in the comments mentioning [latest AI product] and how they used it in relation to the topic of the post somehow, to the point that I'm starting to believe it's straight up astroturfing. I'd argue that such comments deserve to be dunked on, downvoted, or even flagged, unless you want all non-AI discussion on HN to die off.

  • > "I just made this with AI instead, it was so easy and I didn't even have to do anything myself" is effectively also dunking on the author and disrespecting/devaluing the effort they put into whatever they submitted

    Yeah! How dare someone share an anecdote about a similar experience they had! On HN of all places. Somebody sharing an experience isn't disrespectful, neither is talking about how they had an easier time doing so.

    > Personally, if I read such a comment under something I created, I'd feel way more insulted than if they just called me a slur or something.

    Yes, you anti's are certainly irrationally offended by AI.

    > ... every single post not directly related to AI has someone in the comments mentioning ... how they used it in relation to the topic of the post somehow

    Have you considered that maybe, just maybe, many people use AI?

    > I'm starting to believe it's straight up astroturfing.

    "Anyone who disagrees must be a shill" is certainly a take.

    > I'd argue that such comments deserve to be dunked on, downvoted, or even flagged

    So everyone that disagrees with your post should flag it right? Since flagging is just a value judgment on something you don't like?

    > unless you want all non-AI discussion on HN to die off.

    Least hyperbolic Anti-AI comment.