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Comment by necovek

20 hours ago

I got you, but I believe a lot of the ground rules that would be in effect would make sense: a good SDLC — one that I was part of since ~20 years ago — with automated CI/CD, IaaC, reviews, constrained change requests, architectural processes, but all along very agile and able to ship quality changes in ~1-2h, was always necessary to ship good software. Building Cybersecurity and Data Privacy in from the start is the only way to really do it. Same holds for accessibility (we now do those to chase compliance instead). In a sense, I believe good SW orgs have converged to a set of rules about how you build quality SW without having those mandated.

However, I am currently in an enterprise org suffering from compliance/certification overhead while pretending that they do all of the good stuff topped with a highly infectious NIH syndrome (we build our own payment system, authentication system, wrap all the levels of cloud platforms and mobile platforms...). Trying to put more quality in gets opposition from... Quality Engineering, which is a separate department of people who've never written a line of code in their lives — because they need to be consulted and give a stamp of approval on any change, even if it's for the better :O We've got highly specialized roles of Software Architects, System Architects, System Engineers, Quality Engineering, System Validation, Software Validation, System Verification, Software Verification... It frequently becomes funny trying to make a single decision ;-) I don't have to imagine a world where something like this happens, because it exists in some enterprise orgs.

But the fact of life is that even in actual civil engineering, at every phase of building, there is a step of reviewing construction as it is built when constructions actually diverges from the project (happens quite a bit). Most of these get approved if they are not detrimental to the core function and structural integrity — this leaves the opportunity to contractors to actually do what makes more sense from their experience and still pass inspection.

This group of people would never understand that because they are mostly optimizing for appearing useful and invaluable, instead of for business or customer value.

> I got you, but I believe a lot of the ground rules that would be in effect would make sense

Yeah — perhaps unsurprisingly an industry struggling to cope with absurd complexity and change has invented and in some cases reinvented a lot of the kind of tooling and process that engineers were talking about in the 90s.