Comment by wasmperson
16 hours ago
I have no way of knowing whether other people are conscious except by observing their behavior. Similarly, I have no way of knowing whether a machine is conscious except by observing its behavior. If something is outwardly indistinguishable from an intelligent/conscious/sentient/whatever being and you claim that it's still not i/c/s/w, then you've implicitly accepted the possibility that all humans besides you are not i/c/s/w either.
Your tangent on color vision/hearing/pain is not relevant. None of those things are required for i/c/s/w, nor is it obvious that a machine is incapable of feeling those things.
Also you keep using the term "LLM" a bunch here but I wasn't talking about LLMs. The question of machine intelligence is much broader than whatever the current state of the art happens to be.
I initially responded to CSMastermind whose post explicitly mentioned LLMs and the Turing test, which involves interacting with a computer solely by typing and reading text. You first mentioned consciousness.
We can tell that other people are intelligent and conscious because they're like us in important ways and we are intelligent and conscious. I haven't ruled out intelligent machines in general. My point was about the inadequacy of the Turing Test.