Comment by qwerpy
5 days ago
The issue is that this is supposed to be a tech discussion forum and many of us don’t want to be repeatedly beaten over the head with other people’s politics. Plenty of other places to be political, we just wish this wasn’t one of them.
There's always been "politics" embedded in this tech discussion forum. Generally you shouldn't discuss politics for politics sake, but if someone's politics are intersecting with their product (which is Musk's entire MO), of course people will have thoughts.
Besides, if Musk embeds his politics into everything he does, it's fair game to discuss his merits in that arena.
Tech has always been political. You think Mitnick and Woz weren't political? You think windows and the powerpc werent political? That social media isn't political?
You don't like seeing politics you disagree with. You just don't think things you agree with are politics.
I come to HN to learn, to be exposed to different modes of thought. To engage in useful creative discourse over disagreements. The idea that HN or tech is free from politics is intellectually vacant thinking.
> many of us don’t want to be repeatedly beaten over the head with other people’s politics
I agree completely. That's why I won't use Grok: its owner repeatedly beats us over the head with his politics, and I won't encourage it.
It's fine to make your own choices about what you want to spend your money on. But it gets old to constantly have actual technical discussion drowned out by the same repetitive low-effort comments in every single post. I want to hear about what people have used Grok for, how it compares to other models, what it's not good at, etc., without having to wade through all the predictable "Elon bad" comments.
@dang - feature request for HN: have a "Thunderdome" section for the off-topic political commentary on the site, and once enough people flag something for being political, it gets detached and moved to the Thunderdome. People can let off steam there and the rest of us can have a nice clean place to read about tech.
There are already features that let you skip conversations you don't like. Just click the - next to the post and stop whining about it
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Huh. I feel that way with the other models - all the same. Eh, what can you do. Have fun out there.
Do you really think OpenAI's leadership are as stridently, overtly political as Musk? OK.
> The issue is that this is supposed to be a tech discussion forum and many of us don’t want to be repeatedly beaten over the head with other people’s politics.
Maybe that wouldn’t be a problem if Elon Musk would lay off the ketamine and shut his fucking mouth sometime. But instead he spends all day tweeting about how anyone he doesn’t like is a “traitor to western civilization” and calling for executions.
Why is it surprising that people are reacting to his words and actions? You want the politics to go away, get a CEO that doesn’t make everything political.