If you're not a security person, the unspoken subtext here: the overwhelming majority of these "CVEs" do not matter to the project, and a very large number of them don't matter at all. They're pro-forma findings, like ReDOS in code paths that are rarely used, or, even more commonly, "prototype pollution" issues.
Are these real findings, or a situation in which fixes have been backported? At one place I worked, the corpsec guys were wildly incompetent and would try to bury me in "CVEs" in my systems that were nothing but "vulnerable" software versions with all of the "identified" vulnerabilities fixed by Debian backported patches.
When node was new there were many browsers (different rendering and js engines, not just chrome reskins) and standards and "proto standards" were moving very fast. Different browsers and versions would have very different support for CSS directives, tag behavior, etc. This was a real pain in the ass to make a site consistent across different browsers - every other line of code would require a full switch statement based on browser and version it seemed, and all of these things would need updating every time some browser had an update.
The answer to this was something called polyfills, a library that did something as simple as element.center() with just 500 lines of code to make it consistent on all browsers, and all the places you want to center that element are updated by the polyfill authors and your code doesn't need to be touched.
All the sites that weren't using good polyfills broke (or at least looked terrible) for days every time there was a new $browser update.
Since thats the javascript environment node was born into, the style was carried over by inertia and habit, for better and worse.
I'm convinced you can tackle 5-10 "CVEs" a day, make a little dashboard, put some pretty graphs on it, and send it to your exec team and probably get accolades. Nevermind that the CVEs had nothing to do with your product.
Why hasn't looking at EPSS (Exploit Prediction Scoring System) become a more standard approach than just raw CVEs?
If you're not a security person, the unspoken subtext here: the overwhelming majority of these "CVEs" do not matter to the project, and a very large number of them don't matter at all. They're pro-forma findings, like ReDOS in code paths that are rarely used, or, even more commonly, "prototype pollution" issues.
Pretty impressive to introduce 1400 CVEs in a project that's only ~7 months old.
These are CVEs in the base image and in standard lib dependencies. For example, just scanned an unhardened image I built today:
Are these real findings, or a situation in which fixes have been backported? At one place I worked, the corpsec guys were wildly incompetent and would try to bury me in "CVEs" in my systems that were nothing but "vulnerable" software versions with all of the "identified" vulnerabilities fixed by Debian backported patches.
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If the thing measuring whether there are CVEs is also the thing creating said CVEs, are we sure they are even CVEs? Deduped? Etc.
It’s like it’s made of CVEs. First 50-100 should be a good sign if it’s cleaner to start over.
Hold my beer
let me guess. they wrote a promt that told claude do undo all bugs?
Why is the Node ecosystem like this? Why do people continue to choose it for popular projects vs. anything else?
It's the opposite of NIH syndrome. Need to left pad a string? Just import a library from some rando on the internet!
When node was new there were many browsers (different rendering and js engines, not just chrome reskins) and standards and "proto standards" were moving very fast. Different browsers and versions would have very different support for CSS directives, tag behavior, etc. This was a real pain in the ass to make a site consistent across different browsers - every other line of code would require a full switch statement based on browser and version it seemed, and all of these things would need updating every time some browser had an update.
The answer to this was something called polyfills, a library that did something as simple as element.center() with just 500 lines of code to make it consistent on all browsers, and all the places you want to center that element are updated by the polyfill authors and your code doesn't need to be touched.
All the sites that weren't using good polyfills broke (or at least looked terrible) for days every time there was a new $browser update.
Since thats the javascript environment node was born into, the style was carried over by inertia and habit, for better and worse.
Because, like it or not, it does Write Once, Use Anywhere better than Java ever did.
It is pretty much the lowest common denominator for code.
I'm convinced you can tackle 5-10 "CVEs" a day, make a little dashboard, put some pretty graphs on it, and send it to your exec team and probably get accolades. Nevermind that the CVEs had nothing to do with your product.
My favorite urgent must fix CVE from compliance was a bug in the Linux PCMCIA driver on some EC2 VMs.
This is how Vanta et al. make millions.
I don't understand the 'custom patch' strategy over 'fix the app with a major version change' strategy.
so s/bookworm/trixie/g didn't work then?
Yes, this is mostly a joke, I am able to understand the difference between base distros.
a spot on "joke". deb12 is gone for a month now.