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Comment by okamiueru

1 day ago

> The age of humans comprehending things is coming to an end: our brains just won't have the capacity to make meaningful contributions to science, math, or technology.

That sentiment makes me cringe. If you understand how LLMs work, you'd know it'll never be possible without a fundamental change in how these work.

We're also supposed to be reaching that point, somehow, without the LLMs ever being intelligent (in the dictionary definition sense, not the "high reasoning model" marketing sense).

Based on observations, the ones who are fooled by the supposed emergent properties, are just that, fools. Any sufficiently unintelligent agent will perceive transformer based LLM text predictors as possessing high intelligence.

Maybe you can enlighten us. In what way aren't LLMs able to make new contributions.

LLMs in agentic harnesses are Turing complete.

To my best knowledge, we don't know of any greater computational model that the brain is a part of, that LLMs are not.

  • Obviously actual intelligence has an ineffable essential aspect, just like unicorn farts do.

  • First of all, the argument isn't that LLMs (with I assume some automation) cannot be used in searching a problem space. I'm assuming this is what you're referring to, in terms of contributions?

    That's the part where LLMs are used as tools. Which there are plenty of places where they are useful.

    Also, do you know what turning completeness is? Why are you bringing that up here?

    The crowd that AI psychosis has brought to HN is interesting. But not in the "I'd love to learn more" kind

    • > That sentiment makes me cringe. If you understand how LLMs work, you'd know

      > But not in the "I'd love to learn more" kind

      I hope you are able to see the problem in your own communication here.

      Computation classes are interesting because they say something about fundamental capabilities.

      Two machine that are Turing complete are in theory able to carry out the same computations. They are isomorph mediums of computation.

      Regardless. Please keep it sober. If you think you know something, enlighten us. But don't just propagate out lies.

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