Comment by cthalupa
1 day ago
> So has anyone managed to separate the effects of semaglutide from the effects of weight loss?
In general? Yes. For this specific thing? We haven't even really shown the effects matter for humans.
> If this is caused by the weight loss, it is a little disappointing that public health didn't act quicker - lots of people have been overweight for a century now, so literally 10's of millions of people could have been saved from dementia had action been taken 100 years ago.
Public health has been banging the drum on obesity for decades now. But humans on the whole aren't built to be able to resist hyper palatable calorie dense cheap foods.
We're too soft on companies, but equally too hard on people who have a food addiction.
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As someone who has experienced so many different sides of this, you have zero clue the degree to which your appetite and ability to suppress it is hormonal until you get hormonally compromised (and then fix it, in my case, happily)
Blaming individuals for a public health crisis affecting 40% of the population is absolutely silly. There are a lot of individuals like me, who overeat behaviorally, but that doesn't explain the scale of the issue. maybe 8-10% of the population has some sort of eating disorder, the other 30% are just regular people eating an american diet.
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I think this is easy to say as a healthy eater (I am one too, always have been). However, unlearning a lifetime of bad habits is hard. But yeah, it's costing nations billions that could be better spent.
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If it’s not too hard why are people not doing it?
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Ignorant comment.
i feel like close to half the adult population having an eating disorder has to be chocked up to a bug in the human brain at some point.
we evolved to eat caloric foods, in case of a famine that will never happen in the modern world.
I think we are too soft on people and we let dirtbags get away with way too much in the US but saying "its not that hard" is a cop out.
we get it you're a macho conservative. nobody cares.
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We don’t teach children accountability. We teach adults the opposite.
Body acceptance movements («it’s sexy to be obese»), a social safety net built around supporting the people taking the least responsibility for their lives (like drug addicts), and a culture celebrating incompetence and throwing merit out the window in the name of DEI.
Is it really a surprise a large percentage of the population is obese, stupid and unwilling to change? It’s simply a fundamentally bad incentive structure on a western societal level.
Except this entire narrative is thrown off by the fact that obesity has been a problem before any of that and is a problem in countries without any of that. Even places like Korea where you are literally shamed constantly by friends and family for being even remotely overweight has obesity growing all while having basically the exact opposite culture of what you are complaining about.
Basically the only developed country where overweight and obesity have stayed flat is Japan.
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Perhaps they need a bigger drum. Maybe they make a set of health guidelines, and for those who choose to follow them you get a $1000 tax rebate.
If the benefits are as big as some estimate, the added longevity and productivity will lead to more than that much economic benefit to the nation.
Capitalist systems and dysfunctional healthcare in the US thrive on people with chronic unhealthy issues and habits