Comment by vrganj

> No, every one participates. Ordinary people the most

That is just straight up not true. The tribal elder in the Amazon, who's forest capitalists are burning down never got asked how he defines value. The child not yet born was never asked if it's atmosphere should be heated up for data centers. Neither was the fish in the river or the river itself for that matter.

> what do you mean by rivers, glaciers or others not participating in the market?

I'm not sure what's unclear. The glacier melts as a result of somebody who's not the glacier deciding "value" on a market. In reality, the market doesn't decide value. Value is not price. The market decides power structures and violence distribution. The glacier has a value completely separate from the market, and not derived from it.

> There were a lot of natural disasters

Why are we pivoting to natural disasters now?