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Comment by ErroneousBosh

19 hours ago

Do people really use navigation apps often enough for this to be an issue?

Yes, it's one of the most common usages of a phone in the car. And most people I know have exactly that workflow: find and set a navigation destination while parked, then drive there without interacting with the phone.

Are you asking if people use apps to get directions? I don’t have data to back this up, but I’d guess that nav integration is one of the most popular features of CarPlay and Android Auto.

I depend on it for road trips, navigating to unfamiliar destinations, or even just sharing ETAs with people

I'm not sure I've seen anyone drive further than about 10 minutes away without Google Maps in the last 5 years.

Or maybe everyone's misunderstanding your question?

  • I don't really understand why anyone would need sat nav for a ten minute drive.

    • Neither, but my coworkers are apparently unable to carpool to a lunch spot 5 mins away that we visit every 2-3 weeks without setting nav first.

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    • Once the city you live in gets large enough, memorizing the routes just becomes a non starter. I have my route to work almost memorized but due to construction or crashes it changes so often it is hard to cement it. (Seoul)

    • Because the traffic isn't known to you but it is to Google. I could take two routes, one is faster depending on circumstances, and Google knows those circumstances.

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Yes, of course. In my case Waze to get there efficiently, OSMand App for topographic maps, and occasionally Apple Maps (works well with addresses in Calendar) and Sygic. I use them in the car, and on my bike: ruggedised CarPlay / Android Auto screens are rapidly displacing ruggedised satnavs on bikes. Playing audiobooks and podcasts is handy, as is getting text messages read out with dictation for reply, but it's navigation which is the killer app for ACP/AA.

I use navigation apps on any trip where there's a possibility of traffic, because they'll route me around it.

I use navigation via Google Maps/Android Auto almost every time I drive anywhere, easily north of 95% of the time.

  • Why? Are you driving somewhere completely unfamiliar where you have no mental model of how to get there every time?

    I just kind of don't get why people are so into it.

    • A bunch of reasons, in no particular order: Having my phone visibly in-use makes it easier to avoid the temptation of touching it. I have a long history of playing video games, and seeing a "mini-map" is just how I'm used to navigating, even when I know the way. Having navigation that incorporates real-time conditions helps me avoid construction, traffic jams, or other miscellaneous issues. I have a pretty bad sense of direction, and it takes multiple trips to internalize routes, which doesn't happen because I drive infrequently (typically less than weekly, because I prefer to take the bus).

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    • Because my 15 minute drive can be a 60 minute drive depending on traffic and there are 3 viable routes I could take.

      Traffic changes while I'm driving and it automatically updates. An accident can occur on a bridge I'm approaching and I can get detoured and save actual time that I can spend with loved ones instead.

      If I'm driving later at night, construction may block off my normal route and I can still get wherever I'm going.

      I also get notifications for hazards like objects on the road, disabled vehicles, or events that are going to cause traffic. (I use Waze)

      And the cost is zero. When I get into my car it automatically syncs and off I go. There's no reason to NOT have it.

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Every day. Not for knowing how to get to a destination necessarily, but to get routed better.

I’m perplexed too, but I used to study the Hudson’s map book for my metro area for fun before I could drive and have been driving for 25 years, and I didn’t have a phone with GPS until 2015 or so.

I don’t use active navigation, if I don’t know hot go get where I am going I just memorize the portion of the route I don’t know and then drive there. I will occasionally see what route is recommended due to road construction, but I generally know all of the proposed routes so I don’t need GPS once I pick one.

I avoid using active GPS navigation so my mental map of the road network stays in my brain, I think orientation/navigation is an important skill to maintain and using active turn-by-turn GPS destroys it.