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Comment by robot_jesus

2 days ago

Exactly this. They need to offset the areas where they lose money. And we have federal laws (justifiably so, IMHO) that ERs must provide stabilizing services regardless of insurance and ability to pay.

And while that law is obviously humane and reasonable, my only gripe is that the rest of our system is so backwards that it increasingly forces people to leverage that. There was a story about a woman who needed dialysis but had no insurance. So basically, she had to wait every couple weeks until she started breaking down, go to the ER, get emergency dialysis, get sent home. Rinse, repeat.

I don't blame her but really just the system that made this her best possible option.

https://kdvr.com/news/local/every-week-this-woman-nearly-die...

There was a story about a woman who needed dialysis but had no insurance.

And who was in the country illegally so she couldn't use Medicare or Medicaid. Still a terrible situation, but not representative of the typical American.

But wouldn't nationalized healthcare help with this? The amount of uninsured individuals would drop drastically.

  • Nationalized healthcare might help with certain things but it can't create capacity out of thin air. Just because the government theoretically covers everyone doesn't mean that services are actually available when needed. In general the countries with the highest levels of nationalization also have the most problems with shortages. When everything comes straight out of the government budget there's always a political tendency to cut costs by reducing provider payrolls, imposing waiting lists for expensive treatments, or refusing to cover certain treatments at all.

    • > In general the countries with the highest levels of nationalization also have the most problems with shortages.

      Do you have any citations for this? I've heard this rhetoric before, but every time I look into it, searching around for studies on google scholar or the web, I can only find studies and reports indicating that health outcomes trend better in countries with more universal coverage. There are think pieces with anecdata of course, but no actual peer reviewed publications I can find.

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