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Comment by CJefferson

15 hours ago

My big problem with leaving Google is I’ve clicked on far too many ‘login with google’ boxes. In retrospect this was a mistake as it now ties my own domain to google basically forever, but lots of sites don’t even have the option to undo it.

A lot of those sites will let you just reset password, send an email to the Google account's associated gmail, and then you're done. I suspect that it isn't thought through as an official feature in such cases, but it does often work.

Additionally, if you signed up with an email and password, you can often just sign in via SSO with a matching email address for convenience and still have the underlying password remain working. Again, possibly not an intentional feature (but rather something like using the email reported via SSO or via email verification as a primary key).

I switched away from Google and haven't had a single issue going from 'login with google' to a regular email/password FWIW. Every site has offered some kind of painless recovery.

  • This is a bit surprising to me because I switched emails some time ago, and most sites were painless, but there were a fairly long tail of sites that had no self-server mechanism to change email from one to another. A fair number of them required phoning in to read off my new email to a CSR rep. Another pile of them had no mechanism to change email at all, their only solution was to open a new account.

Same; I was a sucker for GitHub SSO as well. I have no idea how to unwind it all, but (like Google SSO) it certainly had its benefits while I was using it. I remember there was an “open” SSO provider - OpenID maybe - back in the 2000s when a federated identity made interacting with blogs and such much easier. It’s the same with GitHub today, with various 3rd parties who need access to your code. They don’t have a “give me an git+ssh url” and so you almost need GitHub.

You can change the MX records of the domain to point at Fastmail (or some other provider) without losing the ability to log into associated "Google Workspace" accounts.

  • I thought this would be a blocker too but you can both host your email somewhere else and continue to login with google. You still need to keep the google workspace account enabled and active, you just point the MX record elsewhere.

I was paying for Google Business for my family, and then decided to switch to iCloud, but left only my own account on Google, because of that reason. Also, some services requires you to log in with a Business Google account, regular gmail accounts don't work (ie: Granola).

i’m not sure i’ll ever delete my google accounts, but my goal was to stop using them. if someday an email comes in, it’ll still get auto forwarded, and if i need to login, i’ll have access to it.

  • > and if i need to login, i’ll have access to it.

    You hope you can ... I didn't login to a Google Account for a few months now and it suddenly wants a lot of personal details to do additional "verification" because I am "suspicious".

    • Did it also give you a tip to "log in to your usual Wifi network"? I have a feeling all large corps let their heuristics run wild with little to none supervison.

  • I don't even bother with forwarding mail from Gmail, it's just a black hole for marketing emails that I'd only occasionally glance at when I'm looking for a discount code.

Hmmm, that is an interesting pickle. Some are probably fairly easy to swap over but it is so dependent on each service.

Alas, short term convenience can lead to long term troubles.